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Here are many threads regarding American Women, Marriage/Divorce Industry, and writings by Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW). Below this are Tom Leykis episodes and links regarding Bachelor Vacations, Expating, Asian Massage Parlors, Escorts and Male Sexual Performing Enhancing Drugs. You should find many of these links of great interest. Enjoy!

Best of Happy Bachelors Forum

What is Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) About?

Don’t Marry Essay

The Misandry Bubble

Briffaults Law

What Divorce Law is doing to Marriage

THANK GOD I’M NOT MARRIED AND WILL NEVER GET MARRIED! GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE!!!

60% of American Wives Cheat on their Husbands

Typical American Women

Single Men, Rich, Happy, and Free

Us Men Didn't Agree to Feminism

Big List of the Benefits of Bachelorism

Engineering your life, Systems, Products, and Process

Tiger Woods: A Cautionary Tale for All American Men

Average Cost of Raising a Child in the United States and Women Who Lie to Get Pregnant

Wanna Get Married and/or Have Kids

Still Want to Get Married?

American Automakers and Women

Continuous Improvement and Innovation

One God, One Emperor, One Empire

Shutting Down the Matriarchy

Why some men prefer to visit prostitutes over having a girlfriend or wife

Ghosts in the Machine

Perspective 106 (You Win by NOT Playing )

American People in their 30’s 1, 2, 3, 4

The Story of Mike

You bet I’m the Pan

Crossing the Finish Line (If you can make it to 30 unscathed, you will be home free )

American vs. Foreign Women Comparison Chart

Divorce Industry Corruption

Mirror of the Soul: Modern Women

Dating in the West

How to live like a millionaire overseas

How to save money on airfare

Sexual Utopia in Power

Child Support Casualties

Expat Observations

Dealing with the question why you aren’t married at work

Women are like hand grenades

Poison Posse

Bachelor Codes

Chivalry at Gunpoint

Alimony: A Lottery

Automatic Mother Custody

Decoding the Codes

Feminist Power = Limitation of Sex Supply

Friends First Scam

Time for a resurrection in life

Married Women in the West Don't Like Sex (With Their Husbands)

The Divorce Industry

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Tom Leykis is a very influential man and a great role model for younger men. The first link is a website which contains many of his episodes. The following two links are by two people on you tube who post Tom Leykis's best episodes, and the links below these three, are some of my favorite episodes.

Tom Leykis On Line

Tom Leykis Channel (LVJ112)

Tom Leykis Channel (alexanderino)

Poindexter's Revenge (My Favorite)

Over the Hill Women

Be Booty Call NOT Boyfriend or Husband

Women Who Have "Had Their Fun"

How Chicks Complain

Marriage Bait and Switch

Women let themselves go when they are married

How Women really view marriage

Marriage NOT Good for Men

Divorce Due to Net Worth

Marriage and Money (Tom really gets the ball rolling on Part 2)

Chivalry is Dead

Women are Depreciating Assets

Only Women Benefit from Marriage

Alimony for Cheating Spouses

Bachelorette Parties

Dating

$184 Million Divorce

"Are Men Intimidated by Successful Women?"

Big Fat American Women make unrealistic demands

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I posted this

This was posted by ron from the Don't Get Married Board

This appeared in the Dear Abby column in 2007

today's Dear Abby...

HUSBAND'S SUICIDE IS TOUCHY SUBJECT FOR UNFAITHFUL MOM

DEAR ABBY: I am a middle-aged woman, currently married to a wonderful man I'll call Ron. I was married once before to a man I'll call Hank, with whom I had two daughters. When my daughters were little, I grew restless and had several affairs. I fell in love with one of the men -- Ron.
When Hank discovered my infidelity, he committed suicide. About a year and a half later, Ron and I married.

My eldest daughter is now 15, and she has asked me the reason for her father's suicide. I want my daughter and I to have an honest relationship. Should I tell her? -- UNFAITHFUL IN MICHIGAN

DEAR UNFAITHFUL: People in their right minds do not kill themselves because a spouse is unfaithful. Apparently your former husband had other issues, including depression. I recommend that you tell your daughter that her father committed suicide because he battled depression and lost. From my perspective, it's the truth.

Nemo writes

Un-freaking-believable.

It's one thing to intellectually realize that women have no sense of honor or logic. Whatever a woman "feels" IS true to her because her brain is just wired that way.

It's still a shock to realize that women are SO freaking narcissistic that a wife can rationalize away the suicide of her husband after she got got with another man as HIS mental illness ...

... and that she'll lie about it to her own daughter ...

... with the BLESSING and SUPPORT of her fellow women.

The life of a husband really is worth less to a wife than the life of her pet dog.

Supreme2010 writes
I think its safe to assume that the husband committed suicide because hew as depressed....

ABOUT HIS SKANKY WHOREBAG WIFE'S CHEATING.

Not with just one but several men at that...and she married the last one?

WOW! What a sad situation; her kids are obviously not aware of their mom's cheating ways. But I guarantee you that they will find out as they get older.

People [family members, close friends] LOVE to tell what they know. and you know somebody is just dying to tell the girl her dad was depressed about her mom fuckin every dick she could find.

Supreme2010 also writes
ALSO, notice this bitch says I WANT MY DAUGHTER AND I TO HAVE AN HONEST RELATIONSHIP.....then why are you asking Dear Abby for advice?

This is the typical bullshit that women hide behind. If you want to be honest, then be honest, if you don't, THEN DON'T. Its obvious she doesn't want her daughter to think less of her BUT YOU WANT TO BE HONEST and its obvious she has no intentions of telling about her affairs BUT YOU WANT TO BE HONEST.

Women pull this kind of crap in relationships all the time. Its called SUPER SELECTIVE BULLSHIT. If you do a little digging, i.e., asking certain questions without letting stuff go and just accepting what they tell you, eventually, you will find out what you need to know.

Tariq expounded on this in one of his radio shows and it is soooo on point, fellas. He calls it:
Half-Truths Women Tell
http://macklessonsradio.com/index/episode-231-half-truths-women-tell-

Prodigal Son writes

Hi,

I can totally believe this and British women aren't any better, as soon as things don't go the way they want they're looking for a quick way out but with the option of taking at least half of what the man has with them and blaming him for all the problems too. I know from personal experience that it's hard to find a good and decent woman now which is a shame, a very rich uncle of mine though he'd found the perfect wife who gave him two beautiful daughers in quick succesion but she quickly got "bored" and he was the one who suffered most of all because she now lives in what was his mansion whilst he's stuck paying child support and complaining that he got it all wrong, have told him that he's learned a lesson and should sort himself out because no woman's worth crying over. I'm proud to say that at 22 years old I've never even entertained the idea of being with a woman, have saw enough to put me off for life and it's good to see this man open his eyes to the way things works and at long last enjoy life without sucking up to women.

Best wishes,
~ Blair

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Supreme2010 writes

this number really isn't a surprise....who do you think most married men are cheating with?

Generally, from what I have seen, married men tend to cheat with other married women...someone who has just as much to lose as they do.

Cheating with a single chick is always risky; she can get too attached and demanding of your time, threaten to reveal your cheating to your wife at any given time, come up preggers to trap you....the list goes on.

Then there are of course, probably a smaller percentage who are cheating with the same sex....but thats another thread right there.

I write

“Generally, from what I have seen, married men tend to cheat with other married women...someone who has just as much to lose as they do.”

I disagree with this statement! Married Women don't lose as much as Married Men do. All the Married Woman has to do is imply that at some point her husband may be abusive. Then she can get a thing called an "ex parte" which forces the husband out of the home. If the Married Woman gets the right lawyer first, hubby pays for his and her divorce fees (hundreds of dollars per hour), gets the house, gets at least half of the other assets, gets alimony, gets child support (if any kids) etc.

Married Women have nothing to lose by cheating on their husbands.

Still don't believe me? Play this 3 1/2 minute clip!

I also wrote

For those guest readers who think I'm full shit or I'm over exaggerating this thing called ex parte.

Here something I pulled up from the internet very quickly.

Here is the legal definition of "ex parte"

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/e051.htm

EX PARTE

Lat. 'By or for one party' or 'by one side.'

Refers to situations in which only one party (and not the adversary) appears before a judge. Such meetings are often forbidden.

Although a judge is normally required to meet with all parties in a case and not with just one, there are circumstances where this rule does not apply and the judge is allowed to meet with just one side (ex parte) such as where a plaintiff requests an order (say to extend time for service of a summons) or dismissal before the answer or appearance of the defendant(s).

In addition, sometimes most of the time on wife's request judges will issue temporary orders ex parte (that is, based on one party's request without hearing from the other side) when time is limited or it would do no apparent good to hear the other side of the dispute. For example, if a wife claims domestic violence, a court may immediately issue an ex parte order telling her husband to stay away. Once he's out of the house, the court holds a hearing, where he can tell his side and the court can decide whether the ex parte order should be made permanent.

Supreme 2010 writes

When I say a married woman has as much to lose as a married man cheating, I am speaking specifically of the marriage itself. Not everyone cheating wants to upset their present homelife, some just need a little ring-a-ding-ding on the side but have no intentions of leaving.

I know of at least 2 chicks who are screwing around on their husbands. Neither chick wants to leave her husband, lifestyle, etc., so they only fool around with other married men [never single men or so they claim]. Their thought is that the side dude isn't gonna rock the boat and neither are they - they both get what they want - or as people commonly say, they get to have their cake and eat it too.

Now for those who want OUT of their marriage, thats another story.

Curiepoint writes

What compounds the problem is simply this:

Women haven't any sense that anything they do is wrong.

Indidelity isn't infidelity; it's sexual empowerment, to their warped little minds. Have you ever seen a child that gets caught doing something of which they are uttlerly aware is wrong, and once they realize they can't lie their way out of it, they immediately turn to justification? In fact, they will turn the situation around and try to pin the blame on someone else:

"I only hit Billy because he hurt my feelings!"

Sounds rmarkably like:

""Men have cheated on their wives for centuries. We are only getting revenge for it"

"16 out of every 10 married women are raped by their husbands, or otherwise oppressed by himl why shouldn't I do the same to my own?"

"Every four nanoseconds, a woman is cheated upon 72 times by their husbands; why shouldn't I?"

"I met him, and I knew that he was my soulmate, just like the 300 hundred other men I fucked from the third grade through college. I love my husband, just like I loved all those other guys, so he should feel honored to have even been a part of my life. He has no right to be angry or to ask for a divorce"

We are asking too much of women, guys. We assume that she is an adult. We should go on the assumption that she has no moral compasss, and that she possesses an emotional maturity that is perhaps 1/3 her chronological age. As I could never think of marrying a 10 year old, so too must we all. Just take a look around the web and see how women are supported for their crimes; look at the expectation that we should be "Men" and forgive her for all of her aciting out of her historical oppression.

The last time I checked, forgiveness does not equal a pass to keep doing this shit to us.

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Superbad writes

guys, out of school i was sort of a young "hot shot" working in a small rural town. over the years several attractive young married co-workers threw themselves at me. what was shocking is that they were not sluts. in fact, they were extremely demure, feminine, "model wife" types. this is what males who marry can expect of their "great" wives... they are liars. women feed men's egos... they're so sweet, innocent, and trustworthy... but i don't believe that for shit. why? because i was THAT guy. i was the guy who these perfect little angels wanted to have f**k them. and guys... i'm no rock star LOL.

Wc writes

Superbad,

I have heard enough of these types of stories over the years to shoot any confidence of finding a sweet angel of a little wife to hell! And often the last women to be suspected of such behaviour?

I recall an incident back when I was still a member of a fundamentalist church, our bishops wife, after 35+ years of marriage and 10 children later, left him for her stepbrother\half-brother (Something messy like that?). It was pretty shocking to me as she fit the typical little Mrs "Molly Mormon" profile to a T.

Your point is well received Superbad, that being, that some of sweetest girls are also some of the most dangerous for this very reason, they come across as more genuine.

WC

Sjenner writes

@outcast, @superbad, @wc- good reference to how women are liars, actresses and disloyal. Hence, why at 39, I am not ever going to marry or have kids. I used to have some hope years ago of meeting "The One" but reality opened my eyes and now I have become a ghost and happy bachelor.

I write
I don't have much more to add to this particular thread, these articles, statistical studies, and the Women talking to Tom Leykis speaks volumes by itself.

I have moved passed my anger phase.

In other words I have concluded my life would be better off without American Women in my life than with them in my life and I am planning my future without them.

Once I get financially stable and make it out of 20's if I still have sexual desires to be with women, I will just travel overseas frequently.

As many of you seen in the private member section with bachelor links I provided, there are quite few attractive places to take a nice get away vacation. When you are in the states there are plenty of Bachelor hobbies to do to keep one occupied.

Marcus Aurelius writes

Outcast superstar, +1 for all of this. I'm glad this was aired on cbs as it is now putting this out in the open.

I can speak on this subject with the authority of someone who has been there, MORE THAN ONCE.

Those links to the www.nomarriage.com articles are priceless. I read those and then suddenly everything made sense...

I, like many other delusional manginas thought that I had found the mythological ONE...which...had I listened to myself in the beginning, and stuck to my mysogonistic guns, never would have gotten attached. But I too fell for all the bullshit lies they, she spewed.

I thought the relationship was perfect, there were some kinks I suppose, but overall...I THOUGHT she was happy, her family loved me, etc.

But it has to be realized that because women lack the ability to stand on their own two feet, and essentially be functioning independently (the so called careerist cougars are anything but, but this is another matter), cannot function without social approval or stimulation. So basically, what you have, is a complacent, and dormant cheater. SHE MAY BE LOYAL TO YOU FOR A LONG TIME, BUT ONLY INSOFAR AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY DOES NOT COME ALONG. This was my case. It is a ticking time bomb. The moment someone showed interest in my ex, and the 'thrill' of something new came along, suddenly her life with me was shit, boring, dull, and routine.....because on the side she could go out and get wasted and fuck this other moron. They become addicted to the chemicals triggered in the brain by the act....because a woman is incapable of rational thought and sound judgement...they act based solely off their 'feelings' which, is to say, the adult version of a child.

Like your one article says, which I also read, the irony is that the dumb bitches are the ones who push for the commitment in the first place, but once they have turned the Alpha into Beta, or simply dominate over a Beta, they become bored...and perpetually repeat the same PROCESS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. This is why they hop from one cock to another. They are so fucking stupid that they DON'T REALIZE THAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE NOTHING NEW, THAT THEIR ACTIVITY IS NOTHING NEW....it is the SAME thing over and over again, merely changing the PERSON. They will ride the thrill wave for awhile, until the relationship really settles in, and they become BORED YET AGAIN. THEY CHANGE PEOPLE BUT CANNOT CHANGE THEMSELVES.

"women are considered deep - why? because one can never discover any bottom to them. women are not even shallow."

-friedrich nietzsche

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Link

That's Life! magazine survey (Dec 9 2004) questioned 5,000 women, average age 38, across England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland on their attitudes to truth, relationships, and behaviour.

# The overwhelming majority (96%) admit to lying.
# Almost half (45%) of the 5,000 questioned told the researchers for That's Life! magazine they tell lies most days.
# Half of all women would lie to their husbands or partners to keep their relationship going if they became pregnant by another man, a survey said today.
# Figures showed one woman in two would not tell her man that the baby she was carrying was not his - if she wanted to stay with him.
# They also said four out of ten (42%) would lie about contraception in order to get pregnant, in spite of the wishes of their partner.
# Eight out of ten women (83%) admit to telling "big, life-changing lies", with 13% saying they do so frequently.
# Partners (70%) are most likely to be lied to by women, with friends (65%), parents (64%), customers and clients (58%) and bosses (57%) also being deceived.
# Six out of ten (57%) admitted to stealing something, while one in four had taken from their parents. A quarter (23%) would "sneak a bottle or two" home if they were invited to a party by a well-off friend.
# Half (49%) would "kiss and tell" to the media for £25,000 if they had a one-night stand with a celebrity, and 38% say they would marry purely for money. 23% would allow their man to sleep with another woman for £50,000.
# Meanwhile, some 79% have got drunk at the office Christmas party, while a third admit to "getting off with someone they don't fancy" and 5% have ended up having sex with the boss.
# An alarming 31% of all women say they would not tell a future partner if they had a sexual disease. This rises for 65% for single women.
# Nearly half (46%) fake orgasms and more than half (55%) claim they are tired, have a headache, or feel ill to "get out of lovemaking".
# A fifth of women with a long-term partner (19%) say they have cheated on him by having an affair, while 30% of all women have had an affair with a married man.
# Most women (68%) do not trust their partner.

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Women's relationships today follow
a very predictable pattern:

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They push men for commitment
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They get what they want
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They lose interest in sex
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They become attracted to someone else
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They start cheating
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They become angry and resentful
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They begin telling their partners that they need time apart
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They blame their partners for their behavior...and eventually, after making themselves and everyone around them miserable for an indefinite, but usually, long period of time, they end their relationships or marriages.

If you're a male, like most other males, you would probably never suspect that your partner is cheating, not only because of your wife’s or girlfriend’s seeming disinterest in sex; but also because you have the belief that your wife or girlfriend is a “good girl.” Unfortunately, males are frequently left/divorced by their wives and girlfriends without ever knowing about their wives' and girlfriends' infidelities.

If you’re a female, like most other females, prior to cheating on your partner you always proclaimed yourself to be "not the type" who would ever cheat. However, also like most other females, after they have cheated, you're shocked and appalled by your behavior; but at the same time you can't stop cheating.

Women's relationships and marriages will continue to follow this same pattern unless we develop an accurate understanding of females ─ particularly in regard to their sexuality. In fact, after researching women's sexuality for more than ten years, I can honestly say that most of our societal beliefs about females are grossly distorted and many are completely erroneous.

The media has finally begun to acknowledge, albeit to a small degree, the widespread problem of female infidelity. Recently, several books and articles have attempted to explain why women are now cheating as much as men. However, none were successful in their attempt. All of them left out very important pieces to this extremely complicated puzzle. I believe the majority were simply unable to find all of the information necessary to figure out the problem. Although, I'm certain that some were just afraid to disclose certain key pieces of information because the truth, quite frankly, is so contrary to our current beliefs. Unfortunately, without these missing pieces, it's impossible to understand, and to subsequently fix, the real problem occurring in relationships today.

My story:

Shortly after my 27th birthday, I began to feel very different. I had been happily married for 4 years and then, suddenly out of nowhere, I began feeling bored and unhappy. In an attempt to figure out what was causing my unhappiness, I looked for answers in books, tried to talk to my Mother and eventually went to see a psychologist. All of the information I received attributed the way I was feeling to my husband, and similar to the majority of women, I began to view my husband as the culprit too.

Currently, women are initiating 70 - 75% of all divorces

Later, through my own research, I discovered that what I was experiencing was quite normal. In fact, women are the most likely to divorce in their late twenties and thirties after an average of 4 years of marriage. During this time, it's quite common for women to experience a pre-midlife crisis, which is similar to the male midlife crisis, only with an important difference - a difference that can actually make women more likely to cheat than men.

The "stages" that women often experience during the course of their long-term relationships

Several years into my research I was able to identify distinctive patterns and behaviors in the women I interviewed. I categorized these into four separate “stages” that women often experience during the course of their long-term relationships. The stages begin with a loss of sexual desire.

Stage 1

Women at Stage 1 feel as though something is missing in their lives. They have all the things that they wanted—a home, a family, a great husband—but they feel they should be happier. Over time, many women in this stage begin to lose interest in sex. It is not uncommon for them to spend a great deal of energy trying to avoid physical contact with their husbands because they fear it might lead to a sexual encounter. They frequently complain of physical ailments to avoid having sex and often try to avoid going to bed at the same time as their husbands. They view sex as a job, not unlike doing the dishes or going to the grocery store. Some women in Stage 1 claim they feel violated when their husbands touch them. Their bodies freeze up and they feel tightness in their chest and/or a sick feeling in their stomach. The majority of women in Stage 1 feel as though there is something wrong with them, that they are in some way defective. They are also fearful that their disinterest in sex will cause their husbands to cheat, or worse yet, leave them.

Stage 2

Women at Stage 2 experience reawakened desire stimulated by an encounter outside the marital relationship. Whether these encounters with a "new" man involves sex or remain platonic, women will typically give a tremendous amount of emotional significance to these encounters.

Many women in this stage haven't felt any sexual desire for a long time. Many experience tremendous guilt and regret, regardless of whether their new relationships are sexual, merely emotional, or both. Most begin to experience what could be termed an identity crisis—even those who try to put the experience behind them. Constant reminders are everywhere. They feel guilt when the topic of infidelity arises, whether in the media, in conversations with family and friends, or at home with their husbands. Women in this stage can no longer express their prior disdain for infidelity without feeling like a hypocrite. They feel as though they have lost a part of themselves. Reflecting society’s belief that women are either “good” or “bad,” women will question their “good girl” status and feel that they might not be deserving of their husbands. Many will try to overcome feelings of guilt by becoming more attentive toward and appreciative of their husbands. However, over time many women will move from appreciation to justification. In order to justify their continued desire for other men, women will begin to attribute these desires to needs that are not being met in their marriage, or to their husband’s past behavior. Many women will become negative and sarcastic when speaking of their husbands and their marriages and it is not uncommon for an extramarital affair to follow.

Stage 3

Women at Stage 3 are involved in affairs, ending affairs, or contemplating divorce. Women who are having affairs experience feelings unlike anything they have experienced before. They feel “alive” again and many believe they have found their soul mates. These women are experiencing feelings associated with a chemically altered state, or what is typically referred to as being in love.

These women are also typically in tremendous pain, the pain of choosing between their husbands and their new love interests. They typically believe that what they are doing is wrong and unfair to their husbands, but yet are unable to end their affairs. Many often try several times. Prior to meeting with their lovers, they will vow that it will be the last time, but they are unable to stick with their decisions.

Unable to end their extramarital relationships, women at Stage 3 conclude that their lovers are soul mates because they are unaware that they have become addicted to the high caused by chemicals released during the initial stages of a relationship. Many live in a state of limbo for years. “Should I stay married or should I get a divorce?” this is the question continuously on the minds of women at Stage 3 - it is also common for women at this stage to attempt to initiate a separation. In most cases, husbands of women at Stage 3, will launch futile attempts to make their wives happy by being more attentive, spending more time at home and helping out around the house. Regardless of women’s past and present complaints, the last thing women at Stage 3 want, is to spend more time with their husbands.

The reason many women will give for their desire to separate is a “search for self.” They convince their husbands that they might be able to save their marriage if they can just have time to themselves. They tell their husbands that time apart is the only hope of improving their current situation. Women at this stage want to free themselves of the restrictions of marriage and spend more time with their lovers. Most think that eventually their confusion will disappear. They think they will eventually know with certainty whether they want to stay married or get divorced and be with their lovers. Separation allows women at this stage, to enjoy the high they experience with their lovers without giving up the security of their marriages. Husbands of Stage 3 women are often unaware that their wives are having affairs. Their lack of suspicion is typically due to their wife’s disinterest in sex and in their belief that their wife is a “good girl.”

Women at Stage 3 may also be experiencing the ending of an extramarital affair, and the ending may not have been their decision. They may have been involved with single men who either lost interest because the relationship could not progress or who became attracted to another women who was single. Women whose affairs are ending often experience extreme grief. They may become deeply depressed and express tremendous anger toward their husbands. They are typically unaware that they are experiencing chemical withdrawal due to sudden changes in their brain chemistry. As a result, many will feel that they have missed their chance at happiness due to their indecisiveness.

Believing they have become more aware of what they want and need from a mate, women at this stage will often place the utmost importance on finding a "new" relationship that will give them the feeling they experienced in their affairs. A new relationship with a new partner will also represent a clean slate, a chance for these women to regain their “good girl” status. Some women will search for new partners during their separations. Others will return to their marriages, but not emotionally and still continue to search. Some women will resume sporadic sexual relations with their husbands in an effort to safeguard their marriage until they make a decision. Although they are often not sexually attracted to their husbands, desire is temporarily rekindled when they suspect their husbands are unfaithful, are contemplating infidelity, or when their husbands show signs of moving on.

Stage 4

The women in stage four included those who chose to stay married and continue their affairs and those who chose to divorce. Some of the women who continued their affairs stated that marital sex was improved by maintaining the extramarital relationship. Some thought the lover was a soul mate, but for one reason or another did not leave their husband and did not feel torn between the two. Others realized that their feelings were intensified by not sharing day-to-day living arrangements with their lover. Almost all of the women in this latter category were having affairs with married men. They believed their affairs could continue indefinitely without disrupting either partner’s primary relationship.

The women who chose divorce and were in the beginning stages of a new relationship typically expressed relief at having finally made a decision and reported feeling normal again. Many of the divorced women who had remarried and were several years into their new marriages seemed somewhat reluctant to talk about the specifics of their past experiences. However, they did mention feelings of guilt and regret for having hurt their children and ex-spouses only to find themselves experiencing similar feelings in the new relationship.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/17/earlyshow/living/main667380.shtml

"Based on my research," the gender studies professor says, "I believe that 60 percent of women will at some point in their marriage embark on an extramarital affair."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334381,00.html

Barash interviewed 500 women nationwide and found 75 percent lie about how much money they spend, while more than 60 percent admitted to cheating on their husband.

More Links Regarding Women's Infidelity

http://www.nomarriage.com/women_cheat.shtml
http://www.nomarriage.com/women_cheating1.shtml
http://www.nomarriage.com/women_cheating2.shtml
http://www.nomarriage.com/articlecheating.html

http://www.nomarriage.com/modern_american_woman_2.html

This is the question for "Dear Abby" advice column:

Dear Abby:

I have been married for over 11 years. My marriage was a dream come true and appears to be ideal, with a loving husband, a big house, nice jobs, fancy vacations and now two children.

A twist of fate started seven years ago when I was reunited with an old friend from high school. Within a year we became intimate and very attached. We tried to stop seeing each other, but our separations wouldn't last.

Four years ago I got pregnant with my second child.

It turns out the child is not my husband's. My friend wanted me to divorce my husband but could only offer his love and companionship and not the marriage or lifestyle I now have.

I was scared of starting over in life. My secret relationship and all communication with my friend ended shortly after I gave birth. No one has any idea of our affair.

I recently was in contact with him after 2 1/2 years. We still love each other, and I don't think I can live without him. I feel so guilty about my feelings that I cause a lot of arguments in my marriage. I mentioned divorce to my husband, so now we see a marriage counselor. It has been helping.

The problem is the entire story isn't out in the open. I know I really messed up. Help!

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Thread at Happy Bachelors Forum

Christopher in Oregon started this thread and writes this

Fellows;

I think I've mentioned a friend of mine in the past. His name is Tom. We've known each other since we were small children, but parted company when he got married the first time. His wife was a slut of the first order. She cheated on him, even hit on me, and the marriage ended after about ten years. Lost his house. One kid who has been brainwashed by the mother to hate him. Never talks to him.

Married again, second wife cheated on him with a sixteen-year-old, and again, the marriage ended and he lost another house. Two kids; reasonable relationship with both of them although the mother has tried to destroy that.

Ten years ago, he married a CPA he met when he was visiting relatives in Austria. He brought her here, certain that this devout Catholic from the old country would be more traditional. Nope. She cheated on him, and they divorced. Lost another house that he's renting back from the people he sold it to.

He now has three renters occupying the spare bedrooms in order to help pay the rent on what was once his own house.

This formerly robust fellow, who was always athletic, at only 49, is falling apart. The stress has given him severe ulcer problems. He can't eat. He is losing weight like I've never seen before. The stress of his ex-wives, and the problems with his children, are slowly wasting him away. One of his son's is about to marry a tramp, and it's killing my friend.

I warned him each time he got married to not do it. The first time we were nineteen, and each subsequent time I tried to reason with him. He quietly ignored me, and now he is paying the price.

This man's life is effectively ruined. His health is is deteriorating rapidly. Stress is killing him.

All because of women and his inability to see them for what they are and say "NO" to himself.

Such an insane price to pay, and what a vantage point to sit by and watch over a period of thirty years a friend being ruined by women.

Christopher in Oregon

Mr Reality writes
Very sad.

Let me tell you what happened. This man was lonely..as most men are in the United States. He wanted a partner, and since men don't socialize with one another like women do, he had to turn to a woman. Each time the woman, who does not see the man as a partner anyway, dominated him and then returned to "the sisterhood" with tales of her conquest.

Meanwhile, all men get is a "don't get married man" but nothing else to fill that void. Men are LONELY. Without a woman or something WORTHWHILE (something above this rotten society and its institutions) to devote themselves to they end up willfully becoming slaves. Any purpose is better than NO purpose to these men. This is why young men join gangs and such. They are rebelling against the establishment and at the same time seeking acceptance and purpose.

To find my purpose I find it necessary to be alone. Go somewhere you can be alone, sit near a lake, or in a beautiful park, and (this will sound very YOGA-like) FEEL the energy of the area untainted by Ameriskank and mangina negative vibrations. I used to go to a local arboretum and watch the deer and the birds. They are so natural and without malice. Unlike the skanks and simps we live around that call themselves women and men.

Your friend is a broken man because he has not freed his mind. He must find other men that are like us. In large enough numbers that he can feel as if he is in good company. Until then I would not doubt that in a few more years he may marry again.

Christopher in Oregon writes

We are much alike, me thinks. I've never had any problem occupying myself with my reading, listening to classical music, painting and riding my motorcycles. I just don't get lonely as most men do, and frankly, I've never thought the cure to loneliness was to share space with a nagging bag of cellulite. No thanks; not that desperate.

Yes, Tom said again just the other day that he couldn't stand to be alone. I suspect he is condemned to relive the past over and over again. He and I briefly get together after each marriage has failed, but once he latches onto another women, he disappears. So, while I do feel sorry when I see any human being suffering, I also realize that he's doing it to himself. He has DONE it to himself. Could he be any other way? Is he hard-wired to be nothing but a mindless drone for the matriarchy? A pussy-seeking breeder? Quite probably. I gave up trying to reason with his some time ago. He is what he is.

When we were teenagers, we had a ball. Inseparable we were. It was great. But, his first wife brought that to a screeching halt, in no uncertain terms. I suspect she was not only angered by my being single, but by the fact that I didn't take her up on her offer to cheat on Tom shortly after they married.

You are quite correct. Men are lonely. They don't network the way women do, and are easily picked off by matrimonially-minded women. I, on the other hand, have never cared much one way or the other. I've found a Zen-like peace for many years when I hop on my motorcycle and head off into the forest or desert. Very serene, and no woman to destroy my tranquility.

Christopher in Oregon

Zon writes

It takes a unique man to be comfortable within himself. This is an extremely rare gift!

We need to understand that more than 95% of the men out there will NEVER get it. Regardless of the facts & figures that are presented to them. They are drawn to their own demise like a piece of steel to a magnet.

I too know a couple of guys like this…It is very frustrating to watch.

It is difficult to leave the MATRIX…You cannot just walk out the door, so to speak. It is an evolution; an ongoing process. A few of us got started a couple decades or more ago and are able to see things very clearly and identify what is going on under the surface.

Christopher’s friend Tom is a classic example of how NOT to operate your one and only life. A “Smart” man will learn from his mistake(s)…An “Intelligent” man will prefer to learn from other peoples mistake(s). We all have choices and must live with the outcome of our choices.

Life in and of itself is difficult enough as it is, why on earth would I want to introduce more difficulty and complications? I am not a loner but I truly love being by myself. I enjoy walking along the lake, going for a drive in the convertible, and reading. Introspection and Observation are the keys to my inner peace. There is nothing that I love better than to be out and about people watching and observing. It is quite educational.

I love this line by Christopher: “I've never thought the cure to loneliness was to share space with a nagging bag of cellulite. No thanks; not that desperate.”

The thought of spending my life with some aging harridan who is constantly testing me, vying for control, using me as a slave, depleting my assets and future earnings. The whole mess completely turns me off to coupling up.

In my observations of couples, what I’ve noticed is that usually the man looks extremely lost and lonely even though he has this Big-Burley-Beastie-Monstrosity of a loud mouthed bitch beside him. How could that be? I thought being with a woman was to alleviate loneliness. Why is it that women always have that infamous scowl plastered on their face? Aren’t they happy with their effeminate man?

Turning off the Indoctrination Box (TV) would be a great start for getting in touch with oneself. Why compare yourself to all the shining happy people on TV? Why fulfill the Non-Reality that the elite are trying to indoctrinate people with? As we can see after 40 years of society following its Feminist/Marxist indoctrination, we now have a lonelier, more violent, unhappy, drugged, economically distraught, dumbed down, etc. society where women are men and men are women.

I think I will continue going my own way in bliss, serenity, happiness and thought. I will never understand how someone can be under the belief that another person or substance can fill a void within oneself…I have NEVER heard of this being fulfilled successfully. Yet, the masses of asses will continue trying to attain the impossible.

Imagine the aura of desperation and loneliness that this guy Tom has while he goes about searching for his next miracle cure in a woman. I’m certain that Christopher has a difficult time being around him. This Tom is literally only a shell of his former self as he pays these parasites: his emotions-time-houses-cars-furniture-child support-vaginamoney-freedom-etc… What did he get out of the deal?

Marcus Aurelius writes

I am sorry to hear about this guy. Man that sucks. To a lesser extent and with less consequences other than emotional primarily, I have made the same mistakes even knowing better. I was a mysogonist for years, but for some dumb odd reason I kept getting back on that run down treadmill. My faith, my stoic philosophy towards life, is what keeps me going. I'm a Buddhist Christian if that makes sense. Very much a loner too; I was fortunate, in that sense, being an only child, I was used to being on my own, and even craving solitary space.

But I'm not gonna lie. I'm new at this. I was living with a woman for so many years in a common law marriage, that its like finding myself all over again....like being ripped out of the Matrix as you guys call it.

For the most part, I am utterly happy. I feel free. Gonna go back to school. Devouring books on religion and philosophy left and right. Writing up a storm. Playing 360 whenever I want. Going places just to go, no nagging....no being dominated by sensual lusts, which is shit anyway to me, overall, hardly worth the price of admission...

But as my other thread elsewhere states, it DOES get lonely sometimes. Like I said I'm sort of new at this, but an instant convert. See, I think it sucks at the same time for many of us, especially in cases like the guy above...because you are raised to believe that special someone is out there for you, that you will get married and live happily ever after; just like those OLD couples you see together. BOTH of my parents wanted me to get married, to have kids, I think they almost expected it....and they are shocked that it has not, and probably will never happen...unless a nasty divorce comes on its heels. My parents were products of a better age, when people got together, they STAYED together...so when I tell them what its like out in the Matrix they are dumbfounded and perplexed. They keep telling me shit like "you're being too negative, you just haven't met the right girl yet.." Oh yeah? Well I'm 32, according to statistics if I haven't married by the time I'm 35, I probably never will, so that window is closing. And what right girl? The one that will cheat on me when she gets bored with a STEADY relationship, as though that were a bad thing? Or the one that has had 8-12 sexual partners by the time I meet her? Or the one that has 3 kids? LOVING SINGLE MOTHER LOOKING FOR MR. RIGHT....yeah keep looking.

But the point I'm trying to make is, this is a bitter pill to swallow, really. Can any of you honestly say that, before you went down the Rabbit Hole, woke up to the TRUTH, that you DIDN'T EVER want to get married at some point? I know I did. My best friend seems to think so highly of my sexual exploits for some reason, though I think they are SHIT, because its never what I wanted....he asked me........if your first girlfriend had stayed with you, the one you lost your virginity to, would you have wanted to marry her and be with the same girl for the rest of your life? The answer is YES. I wanted monogamy. To hell with conquests, they brought more pain than good, because I wanted the former and not the latter. I guess I was never the Alpha male, who uses and discards them, I TRIED to be for awhile....and that made me even MORE bitter.

I wanted love. Wanted to get married. Wanted to have children, raise a family TOGETHER. I wanted my wife and I to see my KIDS get married.

But indeed, I have woken up in the Matrix, and I realize that this is an impossible dream. I was born centuries too late to have a loving wife and a happy family.

The Buddhist in me knows that all things are impermanent, that this is but passing phenomena, all of it.......and that keeps me free, keeps me going, and usually keeps a smile on myself. My first love is God.

Nevertheless, it does make me bitter sometimes, this bullshit nightmare we live in. I am happy and proud to have discovered this movement, it adds such a degree of fullfillment to my life to know that I am not alone, going my own way....yet one cannot help but stare out into the Matrix from time to time, and frown in disgust wondering what could have, indeed, what SHOULD have been...

Christopher in Oregon writes

Marcus;

Buddhist Christian, eh? Sounds interesting. I still spout Christianity from time to time (bad habit), yet I see the draw in eastern religions. I have several beautiful Buddha statues adorning my home, and I've never figured out why. I just like them, and they make me feel good.

I can say in all honesty I've never wanted to get married. I was raised a Mormon, a religion that is just plain nuts about marriage, and yet I never bought into it. A lot of the credit goes to my parents who warned me away from marriage and women, but still, I've never wanted to "settle down" and have a wife and kids.

Especially kids. I've never cared for kids, even when I was a kid. Still don't like the little snot-machines. I have no paternal urges in the slightest. Children are nasty, smelly, rude and in constant need of a spanking.

Ick.

Women aren't any better.

I started riding motorcycles when I was sixteen, and for some strange reason, I was always more interested in riding than I was in girls. I never really dated, and never really had a girlfriend. It wasn't for lack of opportunity. Fooled around a few times, but the whole thing, both sex and women, never really got my motor running. Now, a Kawasaki KLR 650 will get my testosterone boiling like nothing else. Plan to have one some day if my wife will let me.

Heheh .

Christopher in Oregon

Dogwild writes

Women are like many things -- potentially wonderful and potentially destructive. Men have always developed ways to enjoy wonderful things while limiting their destructiveness.

The problem with women is their is no way to limit their destructiveness. Men have zero control over women, and women have no restraints on their behavior.

I think men want to control their environments. There is nothing sinister about this. The word "controlling" is an unfair insult. The very nature of manhood is controlling one's environment.

Again, though, there is no controlling of women. An individual man cannot control a woman. Any effort to exert any control is "abusive." Society certainly doesn't control women.

This is a new phenomena. Women historically have always been controlled by social pressures and by the men in their lives. Again, this is not necessarily sinister control. The control has usually been largely constructive. Women are no longer controlled.

The lack of control has gotten to the point that a woman can literally shoot you in the head and probably get away with it by feigning status as an "abused woman." She certainly can throw your life into a turmoil at any time for no reason at all if you intertwine your life with her.

The bottom line is that society needs to figure out how to control women. Until society does this, men cannot safely deal with women. A woman is a man's biggest danger.

Mr reality writes

Good points. I have no desire to control a woman anymore. Except when I am in the bed with her. Then again I am just as likely to let her have her way with me. As long as she is not into anything insane. "Crazy" I can deal with.

I think it is better this way. The only thing I have a problem with is how the system (which women are a part of) tries hard to exert control over me. As one can see from my posts; I am NOT the one to be controlled by anyone or anything. I mind my business and do as I please. The only difference between women and myself is I have morals and would never do anything to anyone else that I would not wish done to me. I treat those who treat me with respect with equal respect. Women have no such standards.

Zon writes

Women have historically always been the most efficient controllers of women with the men setting the parameters.

As we look around our former land of the free and home of the brave, we will notice that we are no longer free and the brave souls have turned to Ghosts. How can a man be brave if he can have his life destroyed by a woman for looking at her the wrong way? We no longer need to say or do anything in order to have someone feel threatened and have us tarred & feathered.

How was it that our society functioned quite well prior to having thousands of “New Laws” put on the books every year? It has become so amazingly complex that the lawmakers themselves do not even read what the hell it is that they are signing into law and most of them are attorneys themselves. Hitler or any other tyrant throughout history would have creamed himself if he could have had half the laws that we currently have. Plus, our modern elite have the added bonus of all the high tech gadgetry to control and monitor societies and any uprisings that escape their societal sedatives. My friends, they have super advanced hi-tech weaponry that we do not even know about, that is at least 50 years advanced beyond the toys we know about today! Imagine our technology today compared to 1959 and this should give you a good idea where they are now and their exponential growth into the future.

Yes, it is a Fact...We are living in a very sick society which is becoming more psychotic by the month. All the parameters and support structures have been systematically and maliciously removed to destroy the men and therefore obliterate the family bond. Good has become evil and evil has become good!

Remember the so called fun loving 60's? Do NOT trust anyone over 30...Free-Love/Sex...Dress like a slug/slut...blow your mind...Take a Trip>>>"Turn on, tune in, drop out" coined by Timothy Leary.

The elite diligently peeled back all the cohesive structures that allowed men, women, children and families to bond. Was it perfect or a utopia? NO, but it worked and functioned quite well to allow society and civilization to advance for millenniums.

I am 45 years of age and remember becoming very irate with all the discoveries that I was making in the rabbit hole when I entered at 23 years of age…I thought things were bad back then. WOW, looking back in retrospect, it was like the Golden Age. Imagine how Irlandes must see things with the few more years of changes that he has experienced. That man has seen society go from highly functional to frighteningly dysfunctional in a few short years…Now wonder he got the hell out.

Do you think the author of A Brave New World back in 1931, Aldous Huxley, knew where he and his comrades were going to be taking society for the next millennium (our present day and into the future)? They knew all of this back in the 1500’s. Much of what we are experiencing and will experience was laid out back then….I do not mean a psychic or Nostradamus, but the elite themselves, in their own writings of the period.

Welcome to the “New Normal”. A Brave New World…

Williemolson writes

Interesting thread guys. I just want to add my .02 to this discussion. I am fortunate. I've remained in a relationship with the same woman for more than 31 years. There are some caveats though. I've never married her. There are no children. She is from a two parent family and likes men. And, also, she was born prefeminism and is older than I am. I also put her through some tests over the years. When I didn't have an apartment but lived in a dormitory type of situation, she still visited me regularly. She lent me money for graduate school. When I broke my ankle, she let me stay at her place so I wouldn't have to climb stairs and took care of me. Because of all she has done for me, I've arranged my affairs so that, should I pass before her, she will have the financial resources to be comfortable for the rest of her life.

Even though I love her for her companionship though, there are still times I have to be away from her for the peace, quiet, and tranquility that being alone often provides me. You see, I too am an only child, and when I was young I had medical problems as well. This spawned an introspected view of life, a life where thinking and reading were very pleasurable for me. Additionally, I just don't believe most good men need as much social interaction as women, particularly interactions that are filled more with busyness than genuine communication or the furtherance of personal self-efficacy.

Keep up the interesting posts guys. The wisdom that I've gleaned from my brothers on some of these MRA forums has been priceless.

Henryviii writes

That's what I've always said, even before I found boards like this. There are no constraints on female behavior. They certainly dont police themselves. There is never any real threat of violence from other women if they step out of line.

With men, at least we know that if a certain line is crossed, a physical altercation may result. With women, this isnt much of a threat, and there is no threat whatsoever when it comes to emotional/social actions they take against men.

So women have become low down, dirty, and evil with no respect, love or caring for anyone.

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Superbad writes

thanks migs! did you like ice cream as a kid? i sure did. i wanted to eat it everyday. but notice, now that we're older... and COULD buy it everyday... how often do we? yet we still love it. IMO this is how women view sex. when young they are hungry for it and have it every chance they get. later, many become apathetic: they know it's in the fridge... it's not a priority. what is is MONEY, plus tons of idiotic things that i care nothing about. when i see women in their 30's and 40's being seductive, i think "BITCH". their day in the sun is OVER. they may look great, smell great, act hungry (after blowing off every man on earth in their quest for prince charming)... but i know the truth... they're just another bitch.

Abasio writes

Dating a single Mom? Never even crossed my mind....I used to think I was shitty when a woman told me she had kids and I would run for the hills but after realising what has been summarised here I was just glad my hatred of kids has saved me from a life of hell no doubt.

Thinking single moms are an easy lay can get some men trapped, best steer well clear of them ripped open bucket vaginas you could stick your head up.

They can be fun though, to play with. When they attempt to ensnare you but you know what they're up to. Say little things like how much you love kids, how you have more than enough money at the moment and your own house and see their eyes light up, then tell them you could never raise anyone else kids as your own and see their illusions/dreams come crashing down.

Oh the simple things in life.

Jamesbond writes

Statistics show single mothers are more likely to raise kids who wind up in prison, become alcoholics, become drug addicts and wind up being single parents themselves. Kids raised by single mothers are more likely to drop out of school and more likely to attempt suicide.

Now I know why so many guys say, AVOID SINGLE MOTHERS LIKE THE PLAGUE!

Toysarefun writes

First thing you notice is when a single girl says her kids come first. I always laugh when I read that because you know what type she's attracted to. As a kid, I came last and I'm glad I did. I'm glad I had to entertain myself, fend for myself, make my own friends, earn my own money, fight my own battles, etc.

The truth is, if your relationships are not successful, your kids will not be successful, if the girl is not willing to work on herself, or her relationship with you, then her kids will end up running your life, and you know .. more and more women are perfectly happy with that kind of situation, and it's becoming the norm.

Marcus Aurelius writes

Avoid single moms? HOW? They are EVERYWHERE!!! If I go to the mall, I will see a single mom. If I go to the coffee shop I will see a single mom. If I go to work, I will overhear single moms talking to each other about being single moms, trading single mom tips. If I dine out, it will be a single mom waiting on my table. If I go to the bar to have a drink the bartender will talk to me about being a single mom. If I go to the grocery store, I see more single moms with their kids than I do a FAMILY. If I go on a dating website, I will see more single moms than women WITHOUT kids. It's networking for moms who can't go clubbing to pick up trash. If I look under my couch, I will probably find a single mom.

I SERIOUSLY believe, and assume, when I see, or meet any woman that appears over the age of 25 without a ring on her finger and is an ameriskank that she is probably a single mom. I think the dating pool for AFC suckers, manginas, is probably 60% or more single mothers. If I were seriously to go looking for an ameriskank to have a serious relationship with (never happen again), I would seriously be utterly amazed if I found a woman my age or just slightly younger or older (32) that WASN'T a single mom.

You mean you're NOT a single mother? What is WRONG with you? You should have AT LEAST 2 bastard kids by now!!!

I posted this

Here is Mirror of the Soul's take on this issue.

http://mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

Woman has two opposing forces in her drive to reproduce. She finds Bad Boy exciting and worthy of siring her children, but he is too irresponsible to raise them. So she finds boring Nice Guy to raise them. If Nice Guy is a suitable economic slave, she might produce one child for him, but usually Nice Guy raises Bad Boy's kids and Nice Guy's genes get forgotten.

Bad Boy is the wrong person for the woman to "fall in love" with, but he is the right person to produce thriving children. So once she has them, she dumps irresponsible Bad Boy and goes looking for Nice Guy while wondering why she fell in love with the wrong man.

This is why any man with pride and self respect will never stoop so low as to raise another man's children.

Like drugs, Just Say NO To Single Moms, you're DNA will thank you.

http://mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_archive.html

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I warned him. I gave him the lecture about dating single moms, yet he failed to listen to me, he looked at me as an "old fart", "a misogynist","a weirdo", or whatever. Now, this young man has been charged with domestic violence - a felony - from this single mom who he was banging and shacking up with. Once again, NEVER DATE A SINGLE MOM, AND NEVER SHACK UP WITH ONE. Interestingly, as this young man's life is destroyed, this absolute bullshit of a book comes out in praise of dating and having sex with single moms: Sex And The Single Mom

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Mobrules writes

With the talk of children I'd also like to add another point to the list. If you're a single man with no children, and a goal of yours is to one day have children, if you're like me and are very "selfish" as women say, you want to share the experience of your first born with the mother of your child. I felt so robbed while I was in a relationship with my ex. No need to be raising someone else’s children. She won't go through what it's like to have a first born because she already went through it without you.

Analyzing writes

You’re right mobrules

Superbad writes

thank you analyzing, migs, and uncommonsense! true migs, i need one because here in my mid-40's i still do not want kids. i have nieces and nephews. i agree mobrules: if i wanted kids they would be with a woman like the type found in the Philippines... not some washed-up American with kids. the world is FULL of women who want you, me, and every other guy on this board... they just don't happen to live here.

Sjenner writes

true- just work like mad, save, avoid American skanks and IF you want a wife or family, move to Phillipines or non-feminist country!

Superbad writes

thanks irlandes

society pushes morals to stop young people from engaging in sex. young women are often idealistic and seek a life partner. curiosity and love then leads to a sexually active phase. strong women may get dumped but remain in this phase. most do not and enter a wild immoral phase wherein sex is their goal and it is dispensed freely. eventually they burnout and feel used. some revert back but most enter a power phase, viewing their p*ssy as a lotto ticket. women who prided their looks often suffer an emotional blow as they age. some see "cougars" as predators; often they are just old ladies with demolished self esteem... back to giving it away for free to boost their egos.

our society lives in a coma. everything we were taught about marriage is now a lie, a fallacy, a brainwashing. DO NOT marry or procreate. imagine explaining to an alien why us men, the stronger sex, would tie ourselves MENTALLY and LEGALLY to a woman. when our drive is to bed several. when they become controlling, nagging, demanding as their looks deteriorate and our power GROWS. try explaining the cost of sex in terms of wild girls or willing cougars as opposed to the endless money pit of fine dining, gifts, beach vacations, engagement ring, wedding, mortgage, SUV, kids, college tuition, YOUR TIME. our fate was to WAKE UP; unfortunately we have woken to much insanity.

Sjenner writes

superbad- you nailed it right on the head. After 20 years of lies by people (especially women!)
constantly telling me not to worry and that I would find the one, I gave up and became a bachelor for life. At least until I expat outside of the Anglosphere. I am actually glad after witnessing the destruction of many men's lives by marriage and divorce.

Irlandes writes

I married a single mom, over 34 years ago. To date, her daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me in my life. I said the daughter, I didn't say her. Sorry, but I pride truth over chivalry.

Also, over those 34+ years, I have encountered exactly ZERO other men who could say the same thing, and this included the 1600+ estimated divorced men to whom I supplied free counseling services.

Almost everything DM says happened to these poor wretches. Men would support their step-kids, and when the child support check came, Cupcake viewed that as her personal money. False sex abuse charges. Kids who hate their step-dad. Kids who go to jail.

(Note my best friend in the US married a widowed mom with multi-racial kids. Yep, jail.)

Oh, the big one. I noted that every case where the step-dad adopted his step-kid(s) Cupcake filed for divorce and he had to pay child support. I theorize this may not be nation-wide, or may have been a statistical quirk, but among the ones I noted it was 100%.

So, as much as I love(d) my daughter, I declined the honor of adopting her as actually I wanted to do because I didn't want to lose her. We had a discussion and she agreed we didn't need no stinkin' judge to make us father and daughter. I remember the day we decreed we were father and daughter, a very good day for me. And, for her.

Once, my wife commented that I really wasn't her father, and she, the girl, looked like she had been hit in the stomach.

I told her husband last year that some years ago she said she'd have run away from home if it weren't for me. He said she had told him the same thing. I laughed, and told him she may not realize that if it hadn't been for her, I also would have run away from home.

Amazingly, my wife has turned into super Mother-in-law. Seriously. Totally amazing. Never criticizes them, never interferes, supportive, always ready to take care of the child. Unbelievable. I expected her to be the MIL from Hell.

Now, if you are thinking of hanging with single moms, do some heavy thinking. Do you think the experience is going to be like mine, the best thing that ever happened to you? Or, like every other man I know? Good luck, man. Don't blame me when your life is in ruins, just as DM shows in his videos, if you think it will be like my experience.

Junior writes

This is a great post and it really helped me with recent events.

I went to Dallas a few weeks back and the women just seemed really friendly and in really good shape and feminine (I live in Los Angeles where they are very bitchy to say the least).

Anyway, I met a couple of women there. One of them was smokin’ so I stopped her at a club and we spoke for about 10-15 minutes (of course she's a stripper with a 2 yr old). She was doing a promotion and I was heading to another club so we missed each other that night… We tried hooking up over the rest of the weekend but I already locked it in with another girl.

She wanted to meet me Sunday, but I told her that I met another girl. Well, the stripper ends up going to the same place where we are at and was trying to get my eye. So, I again told her that I with this girl and we should talk later. She was cool with it, but I could tell she was jealous.

I come back to LA and she's called me almost every day since. So I'm thinking, shit, I just talked to her for 15 minutes at a club....why is she blowing-up my phone all the time? I think to myself "girls are really friendly in TX" and (narcissistically), "maybe I have some sweet game". Alas, after reading this post, I know what's really up. She sooooooo nice and sweet me because I’m her ticket out of her mess….

I head back to TX in a few weeks to play with her, but I will be super cautious thanks to this post. Condom, then flush it down the toilet personally.

This might have been mentioned in another post, but what if you finish in a girl's mouth? Is there a chance of her going to the bathroom and try to get pregnant with it?

Thanks for helpful info. Exaltations.

Mrreality writes

Actually the initial post is not entirely correct. The truth of the matter is that nowadays more than ever "single moms are being told to focus on their 'careers and school' rather than men." So I have to kind of laugh at men denying the facts here. Women put their careers before men in the anglosphere everyday. Women work, go to school, etc. They just treat men badly.

Now here's the clincher: What makes women pathetic is they fail to realize that "working for someone" does not bring the freedom or security they seek. Most people find that out when they get fired. What makes single moms so unattractive is their lack of character , inability to learn from their mistakes (most go from job to job, man to man doing the same stale shit), and "used" status. Most have no morals, which is why they have children out of wedlock (with no father), and most have slept with dozens of men. Their relying on school is also a joke as all that does is train women to go beg for jobs from corporations, etc.

What women are selling themselves as "freedom" is really nothing more than a specific profession on the American plantation. Women love the matrix and put their whole lives into this illusion of happiness. Until they get old and can no longer fake it. At times the men here seem caught up in materialism as well. I kind of feel like I am talking to women at times. Its like you're competing with women over these worthless things. Why?

Why have you ALLOWED women to anger you so much? Why are you stuck on them? Why will you not free your mind as I have told you? Until you do you will be making fallacious statements, getting angry at women, and posting rants here about them.

FREE...YOUR...MIND...

None of this shit matters. None of it...and soon the USA will be a third world country and the illusion you cherish will be gone.

Zon writes
How right you are, MrReality!

The Band STYX from the 70's had it correct with their tune The Grand Illusion:

Written by Dennis DeYoung
Lead Vocals by Dennis DeYoung

Welcome to the Grand illusion
Come on in and see what's happening
Pay the price, get your tickets for the show
The stage is set, the band starts playing
Suddenly your heart is pounding
Wishing secretly you were a star.

But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

People are caught up on depreciating items that they willingly allow to control their lives. As MrReality mentioned: "None of this shit matters".

Now the media is attempting to emboss into the male psyche that FAT Women and Single Mothers are a prize for us males, worthy of our attention and future labor. They are now bold enough to try and go against nature and our hard wiring...WTF?

As Irlande has stated, I too have never seen anything good come out of a man’s relationship with a single mother. The ones I have had the displeasure of being exposed to (through my friends that were involved with them) were absolutely NASTY people. I have never been married, nor ever will, but I have always had the sense to stay away from these trollops, along with the Fatties & Fuglies.

The next time you guys are out and about, observe the interactions between couples. Over 90% of the time the chick is a controlling bitch…Watch her facial expressions. This is particularly true with women in their 30’s - 50’s. Next, notice all the BIG BROADS with the slim guys. The majority of these guys are extremely effeminate...This observation crosses all age groups. Notice how the guy is meek and quit while the chick is boisterous and obnoxious.

Again, I ask myself, what the hell are these guys thinking? Are they that desperate for a pussy that they will tolerate these beasts? The answer is a resounding yes! The poor saps have been indoctrinated by the Matrix, to perpetuate the Matrix, and to relinquish their conscious mind to allow the Matrix to give them nicely packaged truths in order to keep them in the Matrix, where they can Police others within the Matrix with their PC Psycho-Babble.

As MrReality so eloquently states it: “Free Your Mind”!

It is difficult enough to deal with a childless woman, why would any sane man want to complicate his life and take on more baggage than O’Hare Airport? A simple Risk/Reward analysis would quickly dictate the situation as a NO GO!

Migs writes

tremendous wisdom, superbad. Our fate was to wake up and see the insanity. I wouldn't have it any other way though. If you were asked if you would prefer sight, vision and critical thought to the alternative, how would you choose? How many of us who have been in relationships with women have developed selective hearing loss (filtering) because we couldn't stand listening to the nonsensical babble (celebrities, ect., ect.)? We have woken up and are forging a path away, offering only truth to any man who looks for it.

Outcast Superstar

Sjenner writes

I have one phrase for almost all single mothers: DP or Dirty Pussy! Just say no to toxic waste!
Most are used up cum dumpster sewers. Who wants sloppy seconds anyways?

Mobrules writes

Having dealt with several single mothers (only dated one) I say watch for the offers of sex. Single mothers target sexless men with a future ahead of them. They'll subtly offer it with innuendos and double entrendes. Others are more crude and offer it upfront. You have to know there is an ulterior motive if she "likes" you right away to have sex with you. Since so many men are sex starved, an offer of a steady stream of pussy may be a hard bargain to pass up. Unfortunately like the guide says, eventually things will change. You'll get less sex and/or she may give it to a "superior quality" man. Single moms will ALWAYS look for the bigger better deal. They will never get out of WHORE MODE because she wants a good future, primarily for herself and then her kid(s) after her. Men who are on to those females' game use them and then cheat on them and leave. Sadly I regret not doing this with my ex, that is leaving her for another woman. I don't condone cheating but most single moms cheat anyways, so I see where some men will bring the hammer down and pay them back in return.

Sjenner writes

mobrules- you are 100% correct with regard to these used up cum dumpsters. Just think of them as toxic sewage to avoid and you are fine.

Irlandes writes

>>Single moms will ALWAYS look for the bigger better deal.

This is not a figure of speech. The same tendency to follow the emotion of the moment which got them into single mom status, will continue to run their lives. Leopards do not change their spots.

I have said there might be some exceptions in rural Mexico. I call it Type I unwed mother, a woman who let her fiance anticipate the promised wedding, as women have always done, but he dumps her as sort of a manhood thing. The problem is they all say that is what happened, so you gotta' be really careful, and any doubt says run.

Henryviii writes

Yeah. I used to know one guy who has two underage children whose wife left him, but he doesnt pay child support. His ex-wife remarried immediately and her new husband adopted the kids. So after she left the new husband, this one had to pay child support for kids that werent even his. And he wasnt even with them that long. They were well over 12 years old.

Why do you think Colombianas might be better than Mejicanas? I have read that Colombian women also know how to get out of US marriages. Lots of gringos down there been dumped by them too, once the woman got here.

Irlandes writes

It is hard to get good numbers. One law firm which specialized in marriages to Colombianas said the divorce rate of their clients was very, very low.

A reminder that I personally do not think it is a good idea to import a FW to the Anglosphere. The odds are lower of ruin, but it still happens.

Yet under MGTOW some men will.

My point is enough Mexican women have been spoiled and will bite the hand which feeds them if they get their papers I can't recommend them as I would have done 30 years ago for an imported wife.

Superbad writes

men want sex. women want sex plus HUNDREDS of other things. relationships will NEVER be "fair" due to this. men need remember two big rules. marriage is not spiritual, it is a contract that gives a woman HALF of your shit. many women have TRIED to pressure me into marriage. i simply say NO. their only recourse is to LEAVE... which after "x" years... is EXACTLY what i want! hot women can find another guy FAST... totally letting you off the hook. let them ruin someone else's life and finances. rule number one: DO NOT MARRY.

the second rule: DO NOT HAVE KIDS. if you accidentally have a child it will cost you $100,000+, not including your time. if you have a vasectomy, don't tell women and date as YOUNG as possible. condoms are required still for STD protection. if you DON'T have a vasectomy, you CANNOT rely on condoms or women. women often LIE about birth control or are just too STUPID to use them properly. IMO this is where women who CANNOT get pregnant are an option for sex. these women are often older and DO have grown children.

single moms are TROUBLE. they screwed around, got pregnant and WILL do it again. they want child support. you can assume that any woman who is not on a form of birth control wants to have a child. i dated this German girl who could not stand children and trust me she was on the pill, inspecting every condom, preferred oral, etc. women who do not want kids are JUST like us... paranoid! however, IF you have a vasectomy those single moms are EASY. IF not, women who CANNOT physically get pregnant are viable sex options.

Migs writes

Superbad

As truthful and accurate as anything I've ever read, and I should know. I'll just add in my 2 cents: Get a vasectomy, because these women are huge traps. I don't care if she comes off as the sweetest, most wonderful person to enter your life, don't believe it for an instant. I promise you that she will become your worst nightmare and greatest enemy, and she will use the considerable resources of the government to bleed you dry. Would you volunteer for such a nightmare? Of course not! So, don't! Here is a representation of the progression of events.
expect to stay in that last position for many years.

Uncoomonsense writes

Great stuff superbad, exaltations! This ought to be placed somewhere in the Bible.

On a related note, somone on MarkyMark's blog posted this link:
http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejust.... ving_children/

Fatherhood is something that has really never been that appealling to me...and over the years, I've realized that having kids, just like getting married, yields few if any tangible rewards and is extremely costly in terms of money, time, and energy.

Outcast Superstar

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