How would you like to date a 10?

Before I became a MGTOW Forum member, I was a MGTOW Lurker last year. When lurking on the Forums last year, I remembered one of the more entertaining threads there. MGTOW Member Matt Foley was browsing on the Chateau Heartiste blog last year and in one of his posts he paid special attention to one of the comments a commenter made. It was a great find by Matt Foley, and he started a thread at the MGTOW Forums called How Would You Like to Date a 10?

Me, personally I believe in this concept, If it Flies,Floats, or Fucks, it’s cheaper to rent (or you’re better off renting it)

Bachelor Code #18 states

“Paid Sex is Cheaper than Free Sex"

I would love to rent a smoking hot 10 for an hour of playtime, for a few hundred dollars. When it comes to the attractive 18-24 year old babes I have made a deal with them. I won’t be judgmental with their sexual past as long as I am not tied down to a relationship, marriage and kids are off the table. Meaning my financial liability would get reduced to where I’m not financially liable other than the agreed price for that 1 hour of playtime. As long as that 18-24 year old babe puts on a good show for me for that one particular hour, I’m happy and what she does before that hour together and after that hour together is none of my business because she agreed to waive my long term financial liabilities in exchange for just a couple hundred buck for that particular hour.

For those who wish to engage in a real relationship with a smoking hot 10 rather than renting a smoking hot 10 for an hour here is what you get to look forward to. HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!

Here was the comment made by YaReally wrote which Matt Foley spotted and copied over to the MGTOW Forums

 The constant angry glares coming your way from guys wherever you go because they’re thinking “why is she with HIM? That’s bullshit, she should be with a guy like me…”

-Your friends awkwardly hitting on her whenever you bring her out, because she’s social and friendly and they’ve never talked to a girl that hot before so they’re all constantly vying for her attention, bro code goes way out the window

-Every single male you guys encounter together blatantly trying to flirt with her (not necessarily WELL, but TRYING). From store clerks trying to hit on her while they bag your groceries to cops letting her get off from tickets to bouncers saying “She can come in, but you have to wait in line” etc. Guys giving her free shit left and right. Most of them are all trying to get in “under the radar” and get on her Facebook or whatever just to “be friends”, and as a social girl she’ll often take their offers of friendship because that’s why she’s a 10 with a million friends in the first place. But we all know every single one of those guys is hoping they can sneak her out to hang out with them and fuck her.

-At bars you get huge drunk AMOG guys (groups of them, at times) physically intimidating you and hitting on her and groping her and shit to try to get her away from you, which is fine if you’re a huge dude who wants to get into fights multiple times a night, but if you’re a normal guy you have to learn to deal with these guys allllll night long. Even if you CAN kick their ass, this’ll happen multiple times in a night every single night you go out, so it’s a fool’s errand to go that route unless you want to eventually end up in jail or with serious injuries when after you beat up the first 9 guys the 10th finally lands a hit on you.

-The irony is that she’ll WANT to go out to bars with you. She’ll want to go out with her girlfriends and dance and shit because she’s a 10 so she’s probably in the 20-25 age range and that’s what they do. She’s willfully oblivious to all of this stuff and convinces herself “they’re just being nice” so any jealousy you show will make you look insecure and help throw her into their arms.

-A lot of guys will actually be super nice to you, but again it’s with an ulterior motive of figuring out their competition and sneaking in under the radar, and you can pick up on that vibe pretty quick (ie – that bartender wouldn’t be giving you those shots on the house if you weren’t with this chick, oh and look he poured her an extra one)

-In bars especially but also in daytime, you’ll run into the rich guys who will literally tell the girl they want to fly her to Paris and they’ll pay for it and everything. Like retarded offers that sound made up, but these guys have the money to do that. That’s part of why the value competition of “who has the tightest 6-pack abs and who has the most money” is silly, you will NEVER EVER WIN THAT. Even if you’re better looking and richer than everyone in your city, you’ll go on vacation to LA with your girl and a celebrity will mack on her. This is also why the really hot girls don’t care about that stuff, they’re surrounded by it so they’re looking for a guy with internal value since most of those guys don’t have it since they base their worth externally. This is why you’ll see smokin hot girls with ugly scrubby loser guys and go “wtf is that shit???” Meanwhile now you’re that guy from my first point staring daggers at that scrubby guy, which is what he has to put up with alllll day every day when he’s with her

-In bars guys will SHOWER her with free drinks, shots, etc. because to them if they get her shit-faced they might have a chance to feel her up and get in her pants or rape her

-Super hot girls are used to being able to get away with more drama because no one EVER calls them out on their bullshit, so they’ll test you way more frequently than other girls. They also tend to like drama more because it’s so rare for their world to be unpredictable and scary since everything is handed to them on a silver platter by the world being extremely cautious about daring to offend the princess. So they’ll try to start drama with you just in hopes that they’ll get to feel something other than “being perfect”

-Girls and female friends will constantly insult your girlfriend when she’s not around and behind your guys’ backs and call you shallow and imply that she’s a dumb bimbo etc. etc. just out of jealousy so you have negativity on that side too. God forbid if she’s much younger than you and then you get the pedophile jokes on top of it and the implications that you’re taking advantage of this poor naive innocent girl (doesn’t matter if she’s smart as fuck and has degrees and shit)

-She’ll have male orbiters, hundreds of them, from all walks of life, and a ton of them will be better looking, richer, etc. than you but she’ll consider them all her “friends”. They’re alllllll friend-zoned, but they’ll alllllll still TRY to get in her pants. So she’ll go out on what anyone else would call a “date” with them, but she’ll say they’re just “hanging out”, because hell, she gets a free steak dinner and to drive around in a lambourghini, why wouldn’t she want to go “hang out”? You would too if a girl was offering you that shit. She won’t fuck them, but the pangs of jealousy will eat away at your soul every minute she’s not around you. You could cut her off from all her male friends but then you’ll look insecure and controlling and they’ll all make sure to let her know that about you and try to poison her against you so that she’ll break up with you and they can fuck her

-You have way less bargaining posture over her than you do with an average girl because an average girl has maybe a handful of orbiters and they’re all kind of lame compared to you so you have “hand” in the relationship since you can walk and get another girl. But with this girl, you probably can’t get another one as hot as her very easily since they’re rare to begin with especially if you live in a small town, and she has hundreds of amazing guys all lined up if she wants to pull “hand” and you both know this. As long as you have a solid frame and she sees you as higher value than all those guys, you’re fine, but she’s finely tuned to sniffing out low value in men so if you drop the ball at all, she can move on and not give a single fuck

-On top of it, when you’re NOT around her, you don’t know what she’s up to except that every guy around her is hitting on her constantly and trying to fuck her. So she goes on a “girls night out” with her ladies, where you know they’ll be dressed up hot and get all the attention of the room and she’ll be drinking at a nightclub while you’re sitting at home paranoid that she’s going to get fucked by some other guy…and then she legit falls asleep or something when she gets home and forgets to txt you and your last txt from her was at midnight and said “baby im soooo drnk lol!!” and your mind fills in a million disaster scenarios till you hear from her the next afternoon at which point you worry because you have no idea if she was banging a guy all night and kicked him out or what and you know women lie about that shit…remember, all those guys at the bar are showering her with free drinks to try to fuck her

-Also, all of the guy’s hitting on her stuff still happens even if you’re claiming your space and have your arm around her, holding her hand, she’s holding onto your arm, etc., this will all still happen…especially when guys are drinking. Guys will have entire conversations just with her as if you don’t exist at all, so you have to either barge your way into the conversation and risk looking insecure or ignore her and walk off and hope that she doesn’t run off with that guy

-God forbid if you end up in something really long-term with her and get married and then all of this is compounded by the fact that if she divorces you she gets half your money, kids, etc.

So ya, there’s a lot of bullshit to deal with. Average girls don’t even understand that hot girls have this sort of lifestyle because they get way less attention and perks. And guys who haven’t dated 10s don’t understand what this is like, they just think “naw I’d keep her at home and she’d just be super hot and I’d be in heaven”.

It’s possible to handle these girls, but you have to have absolutely no insecurity (which is where jealousy stems from) and KNOW, 100%, that you are the highest value male she can get…even if that’s not true objectively or based on external things like looks, money, etc. This is very difficult for most guys to do, so most guys who get 10s will fuck it up within a few months because they can’t keep up with the barrage of tests that’ll come their way from her and the rest of the world and as soon as you cave once she knows there’s chinks in your armor and you’re not as high value as you pretended to be.

This is why ultimately game is to help you learn to BE high value, after you fake it for a while. You eventually become it and it’s internalized and you’re no longer faking it, and that’s where you can handle dating a legit 10.

(side note, a girl who’s super hot isn’t necessarily a 10…girls who are super hot but still insecure or low self-esteem (usually these are the super bratty bitchy girls in clubs) aren’t 10s because they only have the looks not the personality. A legit 10 will be smokin hot and cool as fuck and friendly to everyone around her, which is part of what causes all the trouble I listed lol every guy thinks he’s getting Approach Invites and iois lol)

Women Trying to Have the Best of Both Worlds as it Suits Them

At times it can be a challenge for me to come up with new material. After all there are only so many ways you can tell a message. However, an idea did pop into my head. This is to analyze the system back in the 1950’s, the system in the 1960’s 1970’s-present day and how women will attempt to cherry pick the best parts of each system as it suits them while trying to stick men with the worse parts of both systems as it suits them.

Let’s start with the old system, pre 1960’s (system #1)

What Men got

When a man got married he married a young woman in the 18-23 range with a very low sexual partner count
He received home cooked meals, a cleaned house, the mother of children looking after the offspring
In the legal system, it was fault divorce meaning if your wife was having an affair, she would get held accountable for her actions and those men would still get to keep their assets and their kids.

What Women got

They got a financial provider/meal ticket, for herself and her offspring.
Also, she gets to have access to a man’s financial resources during her decline years

To sum this part up I copied and paste a few paragraphs of what Zed wrote in another thread.

Back in 1970 Norman Mailer wrote a book called "Prisoner of Sex" in which he dealt with (in his customary oblique way) the many kinds of power women had over men. He started off by confessing the "firmest of male prejudices - that women had the better half of the deal already."

Through their biological capability to produce children and the caretaking role which naturally arose from that, women were able to demand that men do everything else and hand over the fruits of their labors to women. Men simply had to do the hard and dangerous jobs, and become as successful as they could, because otherwise they had no social identity - they were non-entities.

Men were kept imprisoned in the workforce by a universal system of social pressures mostly designed and enforced by women - even if they often did so indirectly using men as their agents.

Now to System #2 1960’s Model

System #1 was deemed inadequate and slavery by women and tried something new.

What Women got was being able to freely have sex with whoever they want. Hypergamy-the fun exciting 20% of the guys, while ignoring the rest during their youth, didn’t have to cook for men, or clean men’s house.

In other words women get to live life as they see fit, have their own careers and don’t owe men shit.

While up front, it appears women have the better deal but over the course of a lifetime this favors men more favorably. This is because under this system men can freely go live their lives as they see fit as well. Meaning their financial resources isn’t tied down to women and kids. This means he won’t have to work as hard, have more free time for hobbies or another way of putting it free from the shackles of obligations and liabilities.

Under this system women have the better deal when both men and women are in their 20’s. This system substantially favors men when both men and women are in their 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and beyond.

If women resent beta men so much during their youth that they will end up throwing away the opportunity to have a family and have access to a man’s resources once they are no longer the hot 18-25 year old, this is their choice.

Me personally I’m fine with this because while it certainly sucked in the beginning stages this deal got a whole lot better after the first 5 years or so.

1970’s and beyond system/model #3

Feminists and women came up with a way to give women all of the best parts of each system while giving men the very worst parts of each system.

Meaning here is what women get

Still get to ride the cock carousel in their 20’s with the exciting guys.

Can get married in their 30’s with a beta provider, still have access to a beta man’s financial resources in old age while successfully deny her beta husband her most desirable years.

No longer have to cook, clean the house, can give beta husband a honey do list but still get to spend his hard earned money.

Can freely commit adultery without be held accountable for her actions. Whenever she gets bored of her beta husband she can file a false domestic abuse charge and have him arrested and kicked out of the house, can deny her ex beta husband access to the kids but still receive child support, receive alimony, brainwash the kids to hate their father (ex beta husband), keep the house while her ex beta husband makes the mortgage payments, gets half of ex beta husbands 401 K etc

What do responsible men of society get out of this?

The terms are bail out an ex carousel cock rider who only has at best 10% of her sexual currency value left while the other 20% of the guys got to enjoy the other 90% of her sexual currency value at bargain rates. In terms of marriage, she can get fat eating bon bons all day on the couch watching TV, can nag you to no end, won’t cook, won’t clean the house or do laundry, give you a big honey do list in terms of household chores, can freely tell you how fail to measure up compared to the other guys she got to have fun with in the past, cut off the sex supply, freely spend your hard earn money away and have little or no money and free time for hobbies. Are you then going to divorce her, well she gets half the assets, alimony, half the 401K, if children are involved get to pay child support (possibly on imputed income), if children are involved lose the home while still getting make the mortgage payments while at the same time trying to pay rent for a small apartment.

Obviously a man has got to be clinically insane to come close to accepting the current system that feminists, women and the government are attempting to impose. It’s also too late to receive any benefits from the old system even though women were getting the better half of the deal.

Under the second system of Women Liberation, while women greatly benefited from this during the 18-25 years and it sucked for men during those years, after those years this system greatly benefits men more than women and it’s remarkably amazing women took the bait. Because women will have to pay the piper/consequences for being short sighted in going for this system.

For men under this system the terms them especially once they hit 30 til death will only have to financially support themselves and no one else. This means not having to work longer hours or a more stressful job should they choose. Now these guys will have more free time and money on their hands to engage in hobbies they enjoy doing. Of course this means less stress, no nagging wife no fear of divorce etc.

As women get older their attractiveness goes down, as men get older, their sexual hormone levels decrease as well. These guys’ sex drives become more manageable when they get into their 30’s as opposed to when they were 20. Should the sex drive still be there, rampant internet porn is free, virtual sex technology should get better as the years goes on. What if these guys want to enjoy a sexual experience, there are plenty college age escort babes these guys could sample for $200-300 an hour which is a bargain compared to what married and divorced men have to pay for a rapidly aging wife/ex wife. As these guys get more income, they will be perfectly capable of taking themselves on overseas sex vacations should they decide to do so.

However, women thought they could temporarily have system number two during their 20’s when it benefited them during those years and then change it back to a different system as it suited/benefited them them. Of course a growing number men like myself said no fucking way ladies, you got to take the bad with the good and you don’t get to have it both ways. Although, women wanted system #2 to be temporarily but now that I’m around 30, I’m damn sure to make system #2 permanent. No amount of man up/shaming articles will convince me otherwise.

To conclude, women can do what they want, no big deal. But then I, along with every male on earth, have every right to do whatever we want too. Women want casual irresponsible sex in their 20s and a wallet in their 30s. I don't give a flying fuck. What I know is that I will NOT have it this way -- if a girl spends her youth chasing dick, I am out. And fuck off to anyone who tries to shame me about this.

Shot Down In Flames

Lone Trooper from the MGTOW Forums started a thread and wrote a very good writing called Women Don't Owe Men Sex. I liked it so much that I copied and paste it here so this great writing will get more views.

Allot of guys who are friend zoned think women owe them sex because they are nice to them. And doing them a favors helping them in all kinds of ways.
Women say they don’t owe you sex just because you are nice or because you do them a favors.


So just because

You are nice to them
Fix their computers, cars
Spend your time with them
Let them cry on your shoulder, comfort them
Drive them in middle of night to a club because
they are drunk
Help to paint their house
Give them flowers with champagne at birthdays


Women are correct, they don’t owe you shit. Fuck you!

9 out of 10 times, men want to be surrounded by females they want to have sex with. There are exceptions it’s ME. For me it’s 10 out of 10. If I’m not sexually attracted to women I’m not interested in spending time with them.

Bjut njot all mjen are like thaaat . Um yeah right gay men what else um……. damned I ran out of ideas!

So if women don’t owe you shit, why the hell you owe THEM something? You don’t owe women ANYTHING!

Stop being nice for no reason
Don’t do any favors for them like fixing computers or car, let them call a specialist and pay in $$$ for their services
Don’t be their free drivers, let them use taxi
Don’t comfort them when they feel lonely and hurt, it’s not your job

And lastly If you want to be friends with benefits with somebody, say that up front if they don’t agree leave.

Of course real men do as they want to do I’m nobody to tell you what you should do. Do as you wish!

But I must say if you choose path of an asshole, I will thank you because it will make me feel all warm and happy inside!

Because you are making this world a better place by choosing to be an asshole!

Men in the Matrix

Here is an ass kicking youtube video which Stardusk did. I found it through the  MGTOW Forums!

Enjoy!

Risk Assessment Analysis is NOT Hate

In the past week, I have read crazy stuff that Men Who Go Their Own Way are bitter, can’t get laid, hate women etc. All which is bullshit! Each man going his own way did a cost benefit analysis and individually came to the conclusion that the benefits going your own way are significantly better than not going your own way.

When I get falsely accused of hating someone and when I think of the word hate, I think it means wishing to commit an act of violence or hoping an act of violence gets committed against someone. This simply is NOT true. I strongly condemn the use of violence against anyone and do NOT wish violence against anyone. At the same time when doing a cost benefit analysis and pointing out the significant costs or drawbacks of NOT going your own way, doesn’t make me or anyone else who goes their own way a hateful person.

When I or someone else discusses drawbacks of say dating, we point to the significant risks. These risks can consist of lying about being on the pill, poking holes in condoms, inserting semen from discarded condoms and thus getting pregnant. The average cost of raising a child is around $250K and according to the book Taken into Custody, the Mother gets full custody of the child 84% of the time. On top of this you can get falsely accused of date rape, simply by having a couple drinks together before having sex “was drunk/intoxicated” therefore unable to give consent or changed her mind after sex in order to attempt to cover up for herself. Also another risk is would be a psycho lady who could be verbally/physically abusive or threaten/accuse one of a false domestic abuse charge. On top of this one may end up spending tons of money on dating jumping through countless number of hoops and endless drama.

When a man individually does a risk assessment and decides the costs/risks of dating far outweigh the benefits of dating, this doesn’t make a man a hateful person. All it means is he decided his life is better off by bailing out of the dating scene.

Of course when we discuss the drawbacks of dating single moms, it’s NOT out of hate but in self preservation.

When men individually decide to boycott the institution of marriage it’s not out of hate but because the costs outweigh the benefits.

These men understand that the divorce rates are at least 50% with 70% of the divorces are initiated by women.

These men understand women can make false domestic abuse claims against decent husbands in order to gain an upper hand in divorce settlements, a decent husband can have his kids ripped away from him at any given moment, wives can commit adultery and are not accountable for their actions, decent men having to pay child support (some cases on inputted income), alimony, have ex-wives brainwash the kids to hate their dads through no fault of their own. Also most divorced men lose their home while still getting make the mortgage payments while at the same time trying to pay rent for a small apartment.

What about the other 50% of the marriages that don’t end divorce? How many of them are truly happy?

How many of those 50% of the marriages are like this?

The terms are bail out an ex carousel cock rider who only has at best 10% of her sexual currency value left while the other 20% of the guys got to enjoy the other 90% of her sexual currency value at bargain rates. In terms of marriage, she can get fat eating bon bons all day on the couch watching TV, can nag you to no end, won’t cook, won’t clean the house or do laundry, give you a big honey do list in terms of household chores, can freely tell you how fail to measure up compared to the other guys she got to have fun with in the past, cut off the sex supply, freely spend your hard earn money away and have little or no money and free time for hobbies. Are you then going to divorce her, well she gets half the assets, alimony, half the 401K, if children are involved get to pay child support (possibly on imputed income), if children are involved lose the home while still getting make the mortgage payments while at the same time trying to pay rent for a small apartment.

So many of the husbands end up hanging on by a thread or two because the cost of divorce is extremely expensive and would lose access to their kids, in order to be able have a meaningful relationship with their kids will put up with tons of shit that they would normally NOT tolerate.

In my opinion there are only a very small percentage of marriages that could truly be happy.

When many men individually read marriage horror stories, they will do a cost benefit analysis of marriage. If the costs far outweigh the benefits, then many men won’t engage in that activity. In simple economic terms if a product or lifestyle costs a ton and gives very little back, the logical thing to do is find substitute products or an alternative life style which lowers the cost and gives more back in terms of quality of life. This is NOT hate but common sense.

When men individually go their own way they come to this realization.

By removing themselves from the dating and marriage market all together, means these guys will only have to financially support themselves and no one else. This means not having to work longer hours or a more stressful job should they choose. Now these guys will have more free time and money on their hands to engage in hobbies they enjoy doing. Of course this means less stress, no nagging wife no fear of divorce etc.

As women get older their attractiveness goes down, as men get older, their sexual hormone levels decrease as well. These guys’ sex drives become more manageable when they get into their 30’s as opposed to when they were 20. Should the sex drive still be there, rampant internet porn is free, virtual sex technology should get better as the years goes on. What if these guys want to enjoy a sexual experience, there are plenty college age escort babes these guys could sample for $200-300 an hour which is a bargain compared to what married and divorced men have to pay for a rapidly aging wife/ex wife. As these guys get more income, they will be perfectly capable of taking themselves on overseas sex vacations should they decide to do so.

When men individually go their own way and compare the results of their risk assessment analysis with other like minded men who go their own way, we could see more patterns, and confirm our risk assessment analysis is consistent with other men’s analysis that went their own way.

Going your way can be logical, better quality life, best option on the table or out of self preservation.

One thing I do know is if men go their way because of their risk assessment analysis they performed it’s NOT because of hate.

My response to GawainsGhost

I tried to publish this comment in Dr.Helen blog in order to respond to GawainsGhost's comment but when I tried to publish the comment. I was unable publish the comment and I got this response in my failed attempt.

Your comment currently includes words that are not allowed.

I have no idea what words were not allowed because I didn't find any swear words or any words which would consider to be hate speech.

So I'm posting my response here and will drop a link in that blog comment section for my response.

Hi Gawain’s Ghost,

Thanks for taking the time to read my 3 part review. I will address the prostitution issue in a minute but first I want to address the other minor issues first.

First off, I’m not in the military and therefore have never been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan.

“The real and only reason for men not to marry is the problems with the marriage contract and the court system.”

We are in strong agreement here that the divorce court system plays a HUGE issue in guys NOT wanting to marry.

In fact in part 2 of the three part review I went off big time on Divorce industry corruption

Here is one of my paragraphs I wrote from part 2 of the review on “Men On Strike”

When I have read books such as From Courtship to Courtroom, Taken into Custody, have been exposed to many Divorce Stories through the internet. I can’t help but think that any society, which allows women to make false domestic abuse claims against decent husbands in order to gain an upper hand in divorce settlements, a decent husband can have his kids ripped away from him at any given moment, wives can commit adultery and are not accountable for their actions, decent men having to pay child support (some cases on inputted income), alimony, have ex-wives brainwash the kids to hate their dads through no fault of their own, I come to the point where I believe these types of societies deserve to collapse.

Thridly, I glad to see we eye to eye about there can be no successful Men’s Rights Movement until Men’s issues become Women’s issues.

Now we are not going to see eye to eye on the issue of prostitution. I’m in no way associated with any MRA or MRM groups, I’m simply one man who is going his own way and calling it the way he sees it and those who read my blog can take it or leave it. I’m perfectly fine not seeing eye to eye with anyone. If my blog just helped persuade a small handful of guys to NOT get married, then I would consider my blog to be a huge success.

Being a man who is going my own way I could care less whether you or anyone else in society calls guys who go visit prostitutes losers.

I am responding to present the other side to the lurkers reading Dr. Smith’s blog to why visiting prostitutes for some guys is a very rational option. 

For the lurkers who aren’t quite satisfied with my response, I highly recommend reading this article.

http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/paramahmad0/prostitu.htm

First it’s very rare that an honest paying client will ever get threatened or charged with a false rape accusation which is especially a danger to college age men which Dr. Smith addressed in her college strike chapter.

Sex workers very rarely will lie about being on the pill, poke holes in condoms, or grab a tossed out condom out of a trash can insert that sperm inside of her.

Also, they are much easier to get rid of, don’t have to worry about being nailed with a false abuse accusation or have to have some crazy woman going off on you verbally or physically.

Most importantly honest sex workers gives guys more options which means having more leverage. If a guy who doesn’t care about what society thinks about him and knows for $200 he can go to nice Asian Massage parlor and have an hour of playtime with a cute Asian lady in her 20’s or get a nice hour of playtime with a attractive college age escort babe for an hour for $200-$250, he has something call leverage.

This means the pressure will be put on the average American Women to present a better deal to this guy in the equation of time, value, and money that beats $200-$250. If they can’t they will be left in the dust at least by these guys.

You also, have 20% of the guys sleeping with 75% of the ladies in their sexual prime. Which means a high majority of guys didn’t get the benefits of having women in their prime.

Let’s take a look at Silicon Valley! There are many techies which you just called losers in your post who are now their 30’s making 6 figure digits. When they were in their 20’s they weren’t successful with women.

Now let’s say they are making $100K a year. Let’s say once a week for $250 for 50 weeks = $12,500 and takes one nice overseas sex vacation for $3,500. In essence these guys would have spent $16K on having sex with very attractive college age ladies. In other words 16% of his income. On top of this these guys will have more free time on their hands to engage in hobbies they enjoy doing. Even better since they get have sex with hot college age babes, this means they don’t have to fork out big bucks on an expensive car or designer clothing which otherwise they would have had no interest in acquiring if they were NOT trying to impress women.

No compare this to 27 year old plus old women who have had her fun and are now ready to settle for Mr. Nice responsible guy

The terms are bail out an ex carousel cock rider who only has at best 10% of her sexual currency value left while the other 20% of the guys got to enjoy the other 90% of her sexual currency value at bargain rates. In terms of marriage, she can get fat eating bon bons all day on the couch watching TV, can nag you to no end, can freely tell you how fail to measure up compared to the other guys she got to have fun with in the past, cut off the sex supply, have little or no money and free time for hobbies. Are you then going to divorce her, well she gets half the assets, alimony, half the 401K, if children are involved get to pay child support (possibly on inputed income), if children are involved lose the home while still getting make the mortgage payments while at the same time trying to pay rent for a small apartment.

If you decide to be a good husband, she may very cheat on you because you are too nice and boring. Once she gets bored of you, she can make a false abuse allegation claim to get you kicked out of your house, you get pay yours and her attorney fees, lose your home but still get to make the mortgage payments, while paying monthly rent for a new place, lose half of your 401K, alimony, child support, and this ex wife may very well brain wash the kids against you.

Now the techies have leverage with these women. Now they can say look ladies you better give me your prime years and see to it that the divorce industry gets reformed or you are getting to be an old age unmarried spinster or a poor single Mom with no man’s resources looking after you in old age.

Having prostitution as an option for guys gives them more leverage with women and I don’t see these guys being losers in any way even if you and rest of society labels these guys as losers.