I was browsing Happy Bachelors Forum when I encountered a post made by a member.
Here it is!
Hey Fellas, I heard one of the funniest things today from a coworker and I had to share it with you guys.
After 25 years of marriage and 4 kids my coworker's wife tells him she wants a divorce. Well thats not the funny part.
What's
funny is the reason why she wants a divorce and that is that she's not
happy and get this,she wants to "climb the mountain and search for the
Rainbow"
Now I had to listen to this guy for half an hour cry about
this shit. Meanwhile I'm pissin my pants thinking about it and everybody
that he tells this story to busts out laughing.
Now whats not funny
is what it's gonna cost him. A lifetime of child support payments and
half his shit. And this guy already works 60 hours a week.
Anyway I was browsing Aaron Clarey's Captain Capitalism Blog and there I clicked on the link to a You Tube video where he discussed Feminism's Fatal Flaw which was very well done.
Beyond that there was a fantastic comment by Moe MGTOW, between Aaron's summary of the Fatal Flaw of Feminism and Moe MGTOW's comment I concluded this warranted a new blog entry.
Here is Moe's MGTOW's comment
Feminism is a natural development of women's desire to hate, manipulate,
exploit, and discriminate against men for women's personal gain. The
victim mentality is just a rationalization for their laziness and
hateful discrimination against men.
Women do not and cannot love men. Women only like gathering stuff,
because they are biologically driven to gather as much stuff as
possible. Women actually get an emotional rush from buying stuff and
receiving stuff. They do not get the same rush from creating, achieving,
or earning stuff. Women see men as their competitors (advisories) and
providers of resources. This all means women have an amorality similar
to lower evolved animals that steal or do anything possible to procure
resources.
Interesting fact: In accounting class, I found-out women steal
more often and more total value from employers than men (men usually
steal less, but really high amounts). Looking at "the fraud pyramid",
you can see that rationalization, need (pressure), and opportunity
constitute the components of the fraud. Well, women can rationalize
anything due to their natural amorality and women always feel the need
for more, so women take advantage of every opportunity possible to
gather more stuff. The government provides them with an opportunity to
force employers, all men, their men (yes they like to cuckold),
education institutions, and even other women to provide for them.
IMO Many women do not feel the need to have children. When big
daddy government will take care of women from birth to death, then women
will have less or no child(ren). Children were just an old age policy
for women: something to use when their man-slave dropped dead. In fact,
look at some of the most socialist nations, and you will see more
abortions than births in a given year. Women also used to practice
infanticide overwhelmingly on little girls throughout history, because
those little girls provided less future utility (use) to the the woman.
Also boys are easier to manipulate and will be needed asap if their
man-slaves drops dead quickly.
The modern divorce laws in western nations also allow women to get
the greatest utility from the ex-husband through holding the child(ren)
hostage, while having multiple new men to exploit for even more
resources and other benefits. This is the reason for the high divorce
rate. Women do not want or need men, and given the option they will be
happier acquiring more stuff from government, multiple men, and the
babies daddy.
The real fatal flaw of feminism, all women doing this in mass
creates a situation where the population declines, while the welfare
system increases. These women are illogical, because they just assume:
men will continue to put up with their shit; increasing populations will
be their to exploit through government; employers will keep putting up
with their shit; and they will be able to ride the system. Well, welcome
to the new reality women: almost 25% of you will never be married.
Discriminating against men pisses them off and drives them from
education and work, so your hypergamous needs will be unfulfilled. The
single men will produce less, so the government will receive less.
Employers will leave the country, in order to flee high regulations,
taxation, and lower productivity female employees. Women have less
desire to produce as much as men, so they are inefficient employees in
comparison. Lower standards and female accommodations also lower
business productivity, and increase costs.
The government will increase immigration, because it needs more
slaves to pay the growing women's needs, but the new slaves are of a
different culture that does not value the 40-60 hour week westernize
male slave system. Also, the immigrants will take full advantage of your
welfare system more so than the natives.
Welcome to a diminishing economy, where less men will give a shit about
women. Your wants will increase, but the resources will decrease. Haha I
am going to love seeing the world turn to shit in the next few years!
I was browsing Dr Helen Smith's blog at PJ Media and found this entry
Here is a great comment by GawainGhosts, he knocked this one out of the park!
Of course the divorce industry is a $50 billion/year crime organization.
Look at the profit motive. Lord knows how many billions the abortion
industry rakes in a year.
I don't need a documentary to provide
me with that information. It's perfectly obvious that divorce and
abortion are deleterious to both men and women, to families,
particularly to children, and to society as a whole. I've been seeing
it all of my life, starting when I was a teenager in the early 70s.
Then
just about all of my friends' parents started getting divorced, and all
of the girls started developing bad attitudes. By the time I was 15, I
knew that marriage was not an option.
It's just not worth it.
As a man, you're looking at losing, what, 70% of your income and assets
in five or ten years, losing visitation rights to your children when
you're not being slapped with child support for children that are not
yours. The entire system is rigged against men, and it's all been
within the last 40-odd years.
And don't give me any
fundamentalist Christian clap trap about the sanctity of marriage. I
believe in the sacrament. But rather look at the culture, the media,
the laws, and the courts. Everything about "family" law undermines the
sacrament. Thumping a Bible isn't going to change that.
The only
logical solution for any man today is to avoid abandonment, betrayal
and bankruptcy altogether. And the only way to do that is to not get
married, under any circumstances.
Women may not like it, but
that's their problem. I don't hear very many of them advocating
changing the culture, the media, the laws, or the courts. So why pay
attention to anything they have to say? They're largely responsible for
creating this mess, refuse to accept any sort of responsibility for
doing so, and have no solutions to offer for resolving the problem.
The
worst part of it all is the men, the faux white knights trumpeting
their pseudo-chilvary, the zealots pushing their religiosity, the
politicians selling out to placate feminism and women's "liberation."
All at the expense of other men.
When the profit motive is in the billions, what would you expect? Only a complete and utter fool would play this game.
I wanted to post a great article I found, regarding Asian Massage Parlors and then I will follow it up with a great writing by the legendary Duncan Idaho from the Eternal Bachelor blog about men paying for sex.
While I certainly believe there are a few isolated cases of human trafficking, most the women there want easy money. Asian Massage parlors and Escort Ladies from sites like myredbook,eroticMPRub Maps and Spa Hunters are more than happy to sexually take care of the guys that American Women deemed boring or save for later for when they are in their 30's.
However, poindexter, or many of the guys who American Women decide to save for later after they had their fun now have stiff competition. Besides alternatives like overseas sex vacations, free internet porn, and rapidly developing Virtual Sex Technologies, even guys who women don't pay attention to during their youth can have nice sexual experiences with attractive Asian Women at Asian Massage Parlors at $160-$200 an hour or get hot escort babe for $200-300.
So now Poindexter, or the guys that got saved for later found they now can get a better deal simply by opting out of the sham game of dating and marriage, enjoy more sexual encounters with hotter and younger women compared to the costs of dating, marriage and divorce with a 27 plus year old American Woman.
This means Poindexter can successfully put together a time value and money equation and say hey I can get sex from a hot Asian Massage Parlor Babe or an Escort Babe for around $200. So unless hot college age American Women present them with a better deal, poindexter suddenly has better options than settling for 27 plus year old American Women who thought they could save these guys for later after they had their fun.
Obviously the feminists can't flat out condemn prostitution because they were the ones who initiated slogans such as My Body, My Choice. So they are trying to shut down places like Asian Massage Parlors saying they were trafficked against their will and try to fight "human trafficking".
I now found a great write about what really goes on inside Asian Massage Parlors so here it is.
Today, your Correspondents visit North America to report on Apartment Asian Massage Parlors. Also, read the WoWasis post on commonly used AAMP acronyms
relating to practices at North American massage parlors). AAMPs, as
they are commonly known, are most typically found in large apartment
complexes, although a few “float” in hotels. Part of the service
consists of a body massage, typically 20 minutes, generally given during
the first part of the hour. The women are all Asian, in ages ranging
from roughly 23-50. They either come from Asia or are residents in North
American countries. If the latter, they often come from Los Angeles,
the San Francisco Bay Area, or Vancouver, areas with high local Asian
populations. A very small percentage of the women work out of their own
apartments, but most often they work in apartments rented or owned by
the companies for whom they work. In the latter case, apartments are
changed frequently, particularly in areas where adult massage is
illegal. How these women creat an instant “home” in a motel room is a story in itself.
Women come into the business in one of two ways, either by answering a
newspaper ad in a foreign country or being told about the work
opportunity through a friend.
If hired through answering an ad
If overseas, in China, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Thailand, it often
works like this. Women answer an ad to work in North America, generally
for domestic help positions (they are not being “trafficked against
their will, see section below on Trafficking). At the
interview, they’re frankly told that it’s sex work, and they can chose
to do it or not. If they agree, they pay a fee, generally $1000 (all
examples in this article are in USD), to arrange transportation, visas,
any necessary bribes, and lodging in a North American city. They can
either pay their own airfare or the company will buy it for them. If the
latter, round trip open-end airfare to North America is charged at
$3,000. In Korea, all potential masseuses must take a class in
traditional Korean massage before they leave for North America. They
will pay for their lodging in North America at the going rate, generally
$1500 per month for a clean, modern apartment, the rental of which may
be shared by two or three women. They are expected to work off their
debt, generally around $4,000, and may not keep any profit until their
debts are paid. This is paid off in a surprisingly short amount of time
(see “revenue models” below).
If hired through a referral by a girlfriend
In these cases, the woman is introduced by her friend. This is the
standard method for Asian women already residing in North American
cities. They incur no setup charges, provide their own transportation
(often using their own cars), and essentially pay $60 to the company for
each successful transaction. If the referral occurs in a foreign
country, the referring girl gets a commission, yet another way for a
masseuse to make money. Charges to the new woman may be lower, since her
friend will tell her how to buy her own airline ticket and help with
other incidentals.
There are three common revenue models for the women:
1) Freelancers work for themselves, and hire a phone operator to
field their calls. They pay $5-$10 per call, and keep the rest of the
client donation.
2) Women working for a company to which they do not owe debt money
keep $100 of a typical $160 fee, and turn over $60 to the company in
return for phone operators and scheduling services. They pay standard
rents on their apartments (often shared with another masseuse), pay for
their own food, and decide the hours and days they’ll work.
3) Indentured women pay their travel debt, commonly $4,000, through
working, typically at $140 per working hour. After that, they may set
their own rates and may even elect to freelance. How long does it take
for an AAMP masseuse to pay off her debt? Women at these establishments,
as a rule, see between 2 and 5 clients a day. They mostly work 7 days a
week if they’re at an establishment with lower traffic, where the
lion’s share of the day is spent in leisure activities waiting for
customers. Therefore, on a slow week, therefore, they’ll see 14 clients @
$140 per visit, or $1,960 per week. That pays off the debt in a little
over 2 weeks, thus after the first month, the woman who just arrived
from overseas has paid all her debt, paid her share of apartment and
food, and has made some profit.
If a woman is not indentured (see above), she may move to another
house with another employer. All she has to do is leave. Word gets
around fast among the masseuses as to who is best to work for, and
companies find it’s in their best interests to keep them happy, to
prevent churn.
Sending the money home
Since it’s a cash business, the women open accounts in local banks,
and transfer money to banks in their home countries. The money is often
used to fund their children’s education and lodging with relatives, or
used as a nest egg to start a business when they return home. As an
example, one Chinese woman, a doctor in her own country, worked in AAMPs
to fund construction, equipment, and supply costs for a clinic she was
going to open in her own country when she had enough money saved up.
Are AAMP masseuses being trafficked?
In a word, no. Asian-based AAMP masseuses come to North America of
their own free will, and understand and agree to the terms of the
contract. If they are working in a North American establishment where
erotic massage is illegal, they will truthfully tell arresting law
enforcement agencies that they originally answered an ad for domestic
workers. As was discussed above, this is no lie (although they cleverly
obfuscate that they were aware of the ruse), and more importantly,
allows them to be treated as victims, rather than perpetrators, and
their arrests can then contribute to international law enforcement
statistics on women trafficked for sexual purposes.
They can’t help in interrogations much, either. They don’t know the
true names of the real companies for whom they work, or the names of the
owners or its agents. The faces of those who collect the money from the
women can change frequently. And the owner of the apartment, when told
of the activities occurring there, is “shocked, shocked!” that any of
this occurred in the apartment he or she was renting out.
I remember in the old days, when I were a lad, and such shaming language
would have touched me. Now it does nothing but amuse me.
There
are plenty of harpies screaching on in the comments (and a few
manginas/women pretending to be men) but this one gathers all the usual
'tactics' in one; accusations of not having a life, men who go to
hookers have small penises, claims that prostitutes are all diseased
(apart from the really grubby crack whores, I'd say they're probably
cleaner than non-prostitutes; they're more likely to take - and insist
on - precautions, given that pregnancy and std's threaten her earning
power), claims that visiting prostitutes is a sign of not having a life
and/or having no friends, and that basically men who use
prostitutes/escorts girls/whatever they like to call themselves should
basically bow their heads in shame and then channel all their efforts
into wining and dining a demented fruitcake like her. All mixed in with
an amusing lack of grammar and spelling.
It won't occur to these
women that maybe acting a bit nicer and not using sex as a weapon in a
relationship - and perhaps looking for Mr Right before turning 30
- would perhaps encourage a guy to seek her out. That would be too much
effort. Instead, they just whine and moan and throw about the shaming
language.
Most men, particularly young ones, will do what's
required to get sex. Previously that used to be being a nice guy and
getting married. Now it's either be a world-class 'playa', having a lot
of money (or pretending you do) or just taking a short-cut and getting a
good honest whore.
Nearly all women want to take early
retirement or semi-retirement. I know of no single women working
full-time past 30 who wouldn't give it up to be provided for by a
husband, and even go-getting career gals fresh from University
invariably talk of working either part-time or not at all after five or
ten-years in the workforce. In order to avoid working full-time, they
require a man. And all the woman has to offer these days is a shag. Or
the chance of one.
If a man can get a shag from an escort girl
far cheaper and with infinitely less hassle than spending a fortune
dating and then throwing away his freedom and financial security to
support a woman for life, then that's what he'll do. And that's what
pisses these women off. Spinsterhood and full-time work beckons! And
that's not what overgrown Princesses expect.
Women seeking Mr
Right are infuriated at the idea of their monopoly on sex being broken
by escort girls who are just flat-out honest about the whole deal and
won't expect anything beyond what she charges upfront, so the shaming
language is broken out. Then there's the other tactic of moaning that
nearly all prostitutes are abused and enslaved and that paying for sex
is basically on a par with being a rapist and accomplice to
sex-trafficking (this is the view of the British Government, which is
seeking harsher sentences for men who pay for sex. Not the women who
sell it, obviously)
I don't doubt that some prostitutes are
forced into it, but most choose the profession of their own free will;
they may not enjoy it, but what the fuck, who does enjoy what they do
for a living? (I once read that most prostitutes who are trafficked and
enslaved in the sex trade and who are subsequently rescued are rescued
either by - or thanks to tip-offs from - clients who are horrified to
learn that the woman isn't consenting to her profession; contrary to
what feminists say, the overwhelming majority of men would be horrified
at the idea of being an accomplice - knowingly or otherwise - to
sex-slavery and trafficking, and would only pay for sex on the
assumption the woman is a willing participant in the deal. Making out
men who use prostitutes are evil quasi-rapists is just another tactic
women use to try to divert men back to the thorny path of, ugh,
'dating'.)
It's also worth bearing in mind that most women offer
no more than a prostitute. Previously, a woman would run the home and
bare and raise kids. Sex was important too, but the domestic and
child-rearing front were a plus, and something a hooker couldn't
provide. Then along came feminism, whereby women insisted they wouldn't
be doing the babies and housework stuff, just the sex (although usually
only until the honeymoon.) So if sex is all a girlfriend can really
provide these days, then a girlfriend is really just on a par with a
prostitute in terms of what she has to offer, only with the disadvantage
of not giving you a quote upfront, or guarantee of service.
It's
funny all these women insisting all these young men increasingly paying
for sex are sad losers. After all, who is the more sad; men who spend
their honest, hard-earned money on a jolly good shag with an honest,
hard-working, big-titted twentysomething escort girl, or the aging
thirtysomething career gals who decide the best way to try and land a
husband is to not become less angry and bitter, but to become more
so, and to angrily accuse any man who doesn't play by the absurd rules
of 'romance' and 'dating' (which basically means worshipping a female
unconditionally, ideally with money) as a dickless loser?
It's a thread which is certainly worth reading but there was a comment made by MGTOW Member Spoon who discusses how society has one set of rules for women and one set of rules for men. It's a post which certainly needs more attention instead of it being lost in the shuffle (Spoon's post is on Page #2)
In fact I copied and paste comments which MGTOW members Disgruntled Gentlemen and Zed discussed this in a different thread which made my previous blog entry called Half Patriarchy and Double Standards
The post which MGTOW member Spoon made does an excellent job hammering this message through. I do like the way Spoon presented it, so it's definitely worth copying over
So here it is!
Society gets the men it deserves. There is no reason to carry
patriarchial burdens when society does not give you patriarchial
privileges. That is inane. You are defining yourself by how you serve
society. That is to say, women. There is no reason to "handle it." That
is servitude. You'll play the 1950s breadwinner in a world where it
isn't unlikely that your housewife will use the courts to take
everything you've worked for, seperate you from your children and
general tear your life apart.
But at least you're a "real man." A real man doesn't take a different
road when his usual route gets landmined. He just sacks up, puts his
fingers in his ears and goes lalalalalala and keeps walking, right?
That's stupid. Playing the traditional man in a world where equality is
engineered and enforced by the government means you are carrying all the
traditional burdens and the feminist burdens while gaining none of the
traditional benefits or feminist benefits.
No dice. I'm only playing by one set of rules. Either I'm the white
knight and she gets back in the fucking kitchen or we're equal and she
deserves no female privileges whatsoever. Since society at large seems
to have chosen equality + traditional privileges for women, I'm making
my own set of rules to protect my own best interests.
Families are now just a woman and her kids. The man is a superfluous
second parent who can be removed at any time. He is only valued for the
money he provides. = Don't start a family
Marriage is now nothing but a system for transfering wealth from men to women = Don't marry
Co-habitation means that after two years the government considers us legally married = Don't co-habitate
You can be forced to pay child support to single mothers you date = Don't date single mothers
You can be forced to pay child support to children that are fraudulantly
presented as yours = Always demand a paternity test no matter what
These are solutions to real risks.
MGTOW has a name not because we need a support group to live our lives
but because it is a growing and developing phenomenon that we are a part
of and want to discuss. It's an organic movement. It's simply
developing naturally out of the current social conditions. We don't
recruit. Many guys on the BB forum have said that they've never heard of
it but find themselves living it already anyway. That's how we all were
until we stumbled upon the online communities that gave it a name and
discusses it.
